Bin Laden Tells U.S. to Quit Iraq-Jazeera TV

Reuters ^ | 10-18-03

[Brian S]

Bin Laden Tells U.S. to Quit Iraq-Jazeera TV Sat October 18, 2003 11:50 AM ET

DUBAI (Reuters) - Arabic satellite television Al Jazeera said on Saturday al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden had sent an audio message advising the United States to quit Iraq.

The television has yet to broadcast the audio tape but made a text of it available to the media.

[Peach]

Oh, yeah. I'd be pretty freaked out if I went into those sites and so stay away from them. Especially since I know next to nothing about firewalls.

As I recall, that woman has children and I was surprised she'd take the risks she does. In Steve Emerson's book Jihad in America, he details how some terrorists killed a couple dozen Israelis in America and other people who the terrorists considered a direct threat to them. The killings were one at a time and didn't garner much attention at the time, but Emerson is one of the first people the FBI called on the morning of 9/11 because he had to literally rent warehouses to hold all the information he's been collecting on AQ and other terrorist groups.

[StriperSniper]

and Fox are both ignoring this

Hitting Fox now.

[Dog]

This story is 2 hours old and Fox just did a NEWS ALERT....sheesh!

[Peach]

Caught the last few seconds of their reporting on FNC. A day late and a dollar short.

The weekend reporting rots.

[Angelus Errare]

"It will be even more difficult to catch them communicating than I'd imagined, given your excellent post."

There are probably a lot of other ways that are available that I didn't mention. These guys may well have a mentality that is on par with Attila the Hun, but they are also extremely intelligent and sophisticated as religious fanatics go. That's one of the reasons why we can never under-estimate them when they talk about using WMDs against us.

"Does this trick still work, or is our intelligence on this one?"

As far as I know, the Hotmail trick is still viable because like you noted, there is no message being sent for the intel boys to intercept. That was how the double suicide bombing in Moscow over the summer was carried out, as well as an attack on a Hindu temple in Gujarat last October.

"The killings were one at a time and didn't garner much attention at the time, but Emerson is one of the first people the FBI called on the morning of 9/11 because he had to literally rent warehouses to hold all the information he's been collecting on AQ and other terrorist groups."

Al-Qaeda has been active in the US ever since it was formed in 1989. They carried out dozens of killings here either directly or through al-Fuqra.

FYI, CNN is now airing the tape. Bin Laden's message to the US evidently references a $450 billion dollar budget deficit (for which he praises Allah), which is based on a figure that came out in July 2003.

[Peach]

CNN: The tape discussed today mentions the $450 billion deficit and that number was released on July 15th.

OBL also tells Americans not to support President Bush.

CNN asking Peter Bergen, terrorist expert, why that would resonate with the American people. Peter Bergen says he doesn't know but it's obvious OBL is keeping up with the news and is very good at manipulating public opinion.

We can expect the Rats to use this for personal gain. grrrr

[Dog]

CNN is playing parts of the tape and he even mentions the Presidents poll numbers........odd.

[Dog Gone]

"Jihad must continue until an Islamic government is established," he said.

In America? It's going to be one hell of a long Jihad, then.

[Angelus Errare]

He is talking about the Sunni triangle:

http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,6119,2-10-1462_1432458,00.html

Doha - Al-Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden threatened on Saturday to send suicide bombers to the United States and to attack any forces joining the US-led coalition in Iraq, in a tape broadcast by Qatar's Al-Jazeera television.

"We will go on fighting you and we will carry on martyrdom (suicide) operations in and outside the United States until you stop being unjust," he warned in an audiotaped "message to the American people" aired by the Doha station.

"We reserve the right to retaliate at the proper time and place against all countries that take part in this unjust war (against Iraq), namely Britain, Spain, Australia, Poland, Japan and Italy," said the mastermind of the September 11 suicide hijackings in the United States.

"Islamic countries that take part will not be excluded. This applies particularly to the Gulf states, chiefly Kuwait, (which served as) launchpad for the crusader forces."

Al-Jazeera did not give a date for the audiotape, but a "message to the Muslim Iraqi people" also aired by the channel referred to "the government of Mahmud Abbas," the Palestinian prime minister who stepped down on September 6, indicating the tape was recorded before then.

In the message to Iraqis, al-Qaeda chief bin Laden hailed their "jihad," or holy war, against the American occupiers, paying tribute to the "heroes" in Baghdad, Baqubah, Mosul and al-Anbar province, areas where US troops regularly come under attack.

He also praised "Ansar al-Islam, the descendants of Saladin," in a reference to the Iraqi Kurdish Islamist group which the United States accuses of links with al-Qaeda.

The speaker also called on "Muslim youths everywhere, especially in countries neighbouring (Iraq) and Yemen," to "roll up their sleeves" and join the jihad.

He said the United States had become "bogged down in the quagmires of the Tigris and Euphrates," and was reduced to "begging for mercenaries from east and west" to join its forces in Iraq.

[Peach]

I see we both found that CNN report quite interesting.

So IF intelligence agencies verify it's his voice, and I expect they will, then he was definitely alive as of July.

Personally, I think if Americans are told that OBL is discouraging Americans from supporting their president, he may have taken his rhetoric a step too far. (But I'm probably being overly optimistic).

[Angelus Errare]

Well, he already sounds like one of the nine dwarves.

Perhaps he's decided to seize the momentum and announce his bid for the Democratic presidential candidate?

[Peach]

Man - this has convinced me he's alive. Peter Bergen, terrorism expert on CNN and one of the few I actually think has a message worth listening to, said that OBL is politically savy and manipulative.

Let's hope it doesn't work in this case. OBL told Americans not to support President Bush.

[Angelus Errare]

Well, from a political perspective, this tape is a virtual goldmine for the RNC.

Imagine a campaign ad for Bush in 2004 showing Howard Dean's statements on Iraq contrasted with those of Osama bin Laden?

[Peach]

I agree the RNC can use this to their advantage. We will have to admit he's not been caught or killed yet which should energize the search wherever it takes us.

[Dog]

Look at this odd choice of words....

The speaker also called on "Muslim youths everywhere, to "roll up their sleeves" and join the jihad.

Yemen doesn't border Iraq......and why would he throw that country into that part of the speech...

[Peach]

This is going to be a far longer war than most Americans understand. That's provided, of course, that a Republican stays in office. If the Rats get in, the war is over.

[WackyKat]

The biggest irony of all, is that they were actually using embedded porn to pass messages. They would hide text inside the info for porn pictures, and pass them to each other that way.

They're messing with Jenna Jameson?

Okay, now I'm really mad!

[Dog]

I have been watching the reporters and the talking heads ....and they all have this worried look.

Is anyone else picking that up as well?

[Angelus Errare]

Simple.

Yemen is negotiating with al-Qaeda right now:

http://yementimes.com/article.shtml?i=671&p=front&a=2

More to the point, two Yemeni al-Qaeda affiliates along with the GSPC were recently incorporated into the central organization, indicating that Yemen is now taking on an increased importance to the organization:

http://www.ict.org.il/spotlight/det.cfm?id=933

[Peach]

The only reporting I've caught is CNN and Peter Bergen looked very serious.

It's been over two years since we've had a major attack here - they are due, sad to say.