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HOW WE ARE LOSING WORLD WAR II
Life Magazine ^ | Jan/07/1946 | John Dos Passos

Posted on 10/18/2003 3:25:55 AM PDT by Dallas59

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To: Dallas59
This should be forwarded to Neal Boortz, Michael Savage, Rush's show, Drudge and anyone else you can think of.
21 posted on 10/18/2003 6:13:41 AM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace ((the original))
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To: Ragirl
First time I've seen it.
Who cares how many times it has been posted. Have you nothing better to do?
22 posted on 10/18/2003 6:15:14 AM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace ((the original))
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To: doosee
I would love to see W go on Prime time TV, and read this word for word.

I just sent a link to the original source to a local talk raido guy. It sure gives a nice historical perspective.

23 posted on 10/18/2003 6:48:38 AM PDT by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: GOPJ; Pharmboy; reformed_democrat; RatherBiased.com; nopardons; Tamsey; Miss Marple; SwatTeam; ...
Same as it ever was.

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24 posted on 10/18/2003 9:59:49 AM PDT by Timesink
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To: Timesink
Somethings never change, particuliarly with those who hate America in America and out of America.
25 posted on 10/18/2003 10:01:57 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Get a free FR coffee mug! Donate $10 monthly to Free Republic or 34 cents/day!)
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26 posted on 10/18/2003 10:06:12 AM PDT by Timesink
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To: Dallas59; mhking
"Just damn!" bump!
28 posted on 10/18/2003 10:39:07 AM PDT by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
Forward this to SNOPES. When I first saw this, I was of the mind that it was a well aimed target at critics of the war in Iraq (written from the modern perspective looking back at the close of WWII).

I guess that we'll need to send this around in emails to each other so that it can THEN go to SNOPES' "inboxer rebellion".

29 posted on 10/18/2003 10:39:10 AM PDT by weegee
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To: Dallas59; CheneyChick; vikingchick; Victoria Delsoul; WIMom; kmiller1k; mhking; rdb3; ...





Great post from the Time Machine.


30 posted on 10/18/2003 10:44:19 AM PDT by Sabertooth (No Drivers' Licences for Illegal Aliens. Petition SB60. http://www.saveourlicense.com/n_home.htm)
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To: Dallas59
Great find. Thanks for posting it.
31 posted on 10/18/2003 10:50:07 AM PDT by Denver Ditdat
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To: Dallas59
Ah yes, the European Quagmire.
32 posted on 10/18/2003 10:51:12 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Poverty begins at home.)
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To: Dallas59
bump
33 posted on 10/18/2003 10:53:09 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: Dallas59
This is an EXCELLENT article that cannot get TOO MUCH attention.

See also:

HOW WE ARE LOSING WORLD WAR II
      Posted by Dallas59
On 10/18/2003 3:25 AM PDT with 32 comments


Life Magazine ^ | Jan/07/1946 | John Dos Passos
     
 
Americans are losing the victory in Europe Destitute nations feel America has failed them
      Posted by LadyDoc
On 10/17/2003 2:59 PM PDT with 6 comments


Life ^ | Jan 7,1946 | John Dos Passos
     
 
Time-Life Mag 1946: Americans Are Losing Victory in Europe
      Posted by MattAMiller
On 10/17/2003 1:43 PM PDT with 8 comments


Time-Life/JessicaWells.com ^ | January 7, 1946 | John Dos Passos
     
 
Americans Are Losing The Peace In Europe
      Posted by Weimdog
On 10/17/2003 9:44 AM PDT with 64 comments


Life Magazine ^ | January 7, 1946 | John Dos Passos

34 posted on 10/18/2003 11:13:10 AM PDT by RonDog
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To: Sabertooth
 

 




John Dos Passos

 

John Dos Passos, the illegitimate son of a prominent American attorney, was born in Chicago in 1896. Brought up by his mother in Virginia, and for a time lived in France. Dos Passos returned to the United States to attend Harvard University.

Dos Passos left university to join the Allied war effort in Europe. He served as an ambulance driver in France and Italy during the First World War and afterwards drew upon these experiences in his novels, One Man's Initiation (1920) and Three Soldiers (1921).

In 1922 Dos Passos published a collection of essays, Rosinante to the Road Again, and a volume of poems, A Pushcart at the Curb. However, his literary reputation was established with his well-received novel Manhattan Transfer (1925).

As well as writing plays such as The Garbage Man (1926), Airways (1928) and Fortune Heights (1934), Dos Passos contributed articles for left-wing journals such as the New Masses.

In 1927 he joined with other artists such as Upton Sinclair, Dorothy Parker, Edna St. Vincent Millay, Ben Shahn, Floyd Dell in the campaign against the proposed execution of Nicola Sacco and Bartolomeo Vanzetti. This included the writing of Facing the Chair: Sacco and Vanzetti (1927).

The 1930s saw the publication of his USA trilogy: The 42nd Parallel (1930), 1919 (1932) and The Big Money (1936). Dos Passos developed the experimental literary device where the narratives intersect and continue from one novel to the next. The USA trilogy also included what became known as newsreels (impressionistic collections of slogans, popular song lyrics, newspaper headlines and extracts from political speeches).


Dos Passos was active in the campaign against the growth of fascism in Europe. He joined other literary figures such as Dashiell Hammett, Clifford Odets, Lillian Hellman and Ernest Hemingway in supporting the Republicans during the Spanish Civil War. However Dos Passos gradually became disillusioned with left-wing politics and this is reflected in his novels, The Adventures of a Young Man (1939) and Number One (1943).

Other books by Dos Passos include the novels, The Grand Design (1949), Chosen Country (1951) and Midcentury (1961), a biography, The Head and Heart of Thomas Jefferson (1954) and an autobiography, The Best of Times: An Informal Memoir (1966).
John Dos Passos died in 1970.

 

 

 


 

(1) John Dos Passos, Facing the Chair: Sacco and Vanzetti (1927)

On June 3rd 1919 a bomb exploded outside the Washington house of Attorney General A. Mitchell Palmer. In the previous months various people had received bombs through the mail, one of them blowing off the two hands of the unfortunate housemaid who undid the package. No one, and least of all the federal detectives ever seems to have discovered who committed these outrages or why they were committed. But their result was to put a scare into every public official in the country, and particularly into Attorney General Palmer.

No one knew where the lightning would strike next. The signing of peace had left the carefully stirred up hatred of the war years unsatisfied. It was easy for people who knew what they were doing to turn the terrors of government officials and the unanalyzed feeling of distrust of foreigners of the average man into a great crusade of hate against reds, radicals, dissenters of all sorts. The Department of Justice, backed by the press, frenziedly acclaimed by the man on the street, invented an immanent revolution.


(2) John Dos Passos, Facing the Chair: Sacco and Vanzetti (1927)

Why were these men held as murderers and highwaymen and not as anarchists and advocates of the working people? Among a people that does not recognize or rather does not admit the force and danger of ideas it is impossible to prosecute the holder of unpopular ideas directly. Also there is a smoldering tradition of freedom that makes those who do it feel guilty. After all everyone learnt the Declaration of Independence and "Give me Liberty or Give me Death" in school, and however perfunctory the words have become they have left a faint infantile impression on the minds of most of us. Hence the characteristic American weapon of the frameup. If two Italians are spreading anarchist propaganda, you hold them for murder.


(3) John Dos Passos, speech (1938)

I have come to think, especially since my trip to Spain, that civil liberties must be protected at every stage. In Spain I am sure that the introduction of GPU methods by the Communists did as much harm as their tank men, pilots and experienced military men did good. The trouble with an all powerful secret police in the hands of fanatics, or of anybody, is that once it gets started there's no stopping it until it has corrupted the whole body politic. I am afraid that's what's happening in Russia.

 

(4) Marion Merriman, the wife of Robert Merriman, met Ernest Hemingway and John Dos Passos in Madrid in 1937. She later wrote about the meeting in her book American Commander in Spain: Robert Hale Merriman and the Abraham Lincoln Brigade (1986)

As we drove into Madrid, the first thing we saw was the big bullring - the Moorish architecture, arch upon arch, dusky brown with beautiful coloring in the tiles, the columns. It was magnificent, I thought. Entering Madrid was like entering any big city's industrial section. We drove through a ring of factories, then into the nicer part of the city.

'Even under bombardment, Madrid is marvelous!' I said to Bob. The wide tree-lined boulevards and modern buildings had an air of dignity that even blocks of bombed-out ruins could not dispel.

But the scene changed, quickly. As we walked down a broad boulevard, we heard the crack of rifle fire. Then the tempo picked up. 'That's machine gun fire,' Bob said. The machine-guns rattled in the distance, perhaps a few blocks away, I couldn't be sure. Then we heard the boom of artillery and the reality of Madrid at war returned deeply to me. The artillery shell landed some distance away, collapsing part of a building, which fell into a rubble of dust. We dashed down the street, staying close to the buildings. The horror of war was driven home to me. I was terrified.

I was shaking badly when we entered the Hotel Florida and went directly up the stairs to Hemingway's room. Bob steadied me, then knocked on the door.

'Hello, I'm Merriman,' Bob said as Hemingway, looking intense but friendly, opened the door.

'I know,' Hemingway said. Bob introduced me, and the writer greeted me warmly.

Then Hemingway and Bob fell into conversation about the war and the broadcast they planned. They were joined by John Dos Passos, Josephine Herbst, and a scattering of American volunteers and correspondents who sipped Hemingway's scotch and compared notes and stories. I slipped into an old chair, still quite shaken by the action outside.

I studied Bob and Hemingway. They got along. Each talked for a moment, then listened to the other. How different they were, I thought, Bob at twenty-eight, Hemingway at least a good ten years older. Hemingway seemed complex. He was big and bluff and macho. He didn't appear to be a braggart but he got across the message, through an air of self-assurance, that he could handle what he took on.

Bob was taller than Hemingway by several inches. They looked at each other through the same kind of round glasses, Bob's frames of tortoise shell, Hemingway's of steel.

Hemingway was animated, gesturing as he asked questions, scratching his scalp through thick dark hair, perplexed, then scowling, then, something setting him off, laughing from deep down. He wore a sweater, buttoned high on his chest, and a dark tie, loosened at the neck.

Bob was clean shaven. Hemingway needed a shave. He didn't appear to be growing a beard, he just seemed to need a shave, the scrubble roughing his cheeks and chin. He looked like he had had a hard night. He had a knot on his forehead, probably suffered in some roustabout skirmish.

Hemingway sipped a scotch, as did Bob. Someone offered me a drink, and I thought I'd never been as happy in my life to get a drink of whiskey. Even in the relatively safe room I remained frightened. The sheer madness of the war would not leave my mind.

As Bob and Hemingway talked, the contrast between them struck me time and again. Bob was an intellectual, and he looked like one. Hemingway was an intellectual, but he looked more like an adventurer. Bob looked like an observer. Hemingway looked like a man of action.

I was fascinated by Dos Passes, whom I had always thought was a better writer than Hemingway. John Dos Passes was, without question, a seasoned writer of the prose of war. But as a man, he didn't impress me. I thought he was wishy-washy. I couldn't make out everything he was saying, but his message was clear - for whatever reasons, he
wanted out of there, out of Hemingway's room, out of bomb-shaken Madrid.

I was scared too, with good reason. But somehow Dos Passes acted more than scared. I guessed it was his uncertainty, his facial expressions, his general attitude that this was a lost cause, given the superior strength of the Franco forces. Dos Passes criticized the Spanish Republic, for which Americans were fighting and dying.

Hemingway, on the other hand, let you know by his presence and through his writing exactly where he stood. Hemingway had told the world of the murder in Madrid, including the murder of children by fascist bombing. He had told about 'the noises kids make when they are hit. There is a sort of foretaste of that when the child sees the planes coming and yells "Aviacion!" Then, too, some kids are very quiet when they are hit - until you move them.'

 

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John Dos Passos
 
1896 - 1970

One of Chicago's most famous novelists, John Dos Passos was born here in 1896. He attended Harvard University, graduating in 1916. Like several other well-known writers of his generation, he volunteered in World War I before the US entered the war. The next time the United States went to war, Dos Passos served as a war correspondent for Life Magazine in the Pacific and South America. The observation and writing skills he learned as a reporter came through in his fictional works; in fact, critics have sometimes even faulted him for being too objective.

Critics count Dos Passos among America's greatest writers, but many note a decline in the artistic quality of his work over time. While Sinclair Lewis hailed "Manhattan Transfer" as one of the most important novels ever written, works from later in Dos Passos's life have been greeted with less enthusiasm. His most contentious work is the trilogy "USA," a novel of protest with a distinct tone that is difficult to pin down.

Dos Passos was somewhat radical in his youth - among other political activities, he founded the publication "New Masses" in 1926. But he became more conservative as he grew older. Some critics have said that his political transformation was less a shift in ideology than a changing manifestation of his lifelong belief in rugged American individualism. He wrote several books about one of his personal heroes, Thomas Jefferson.

Works:
One Man's Initiation, 1917 Three Soldiers, 1921 A Pushcart at the Curb, 1922 Rosinante to the Road Again, 1922 Streets of Night, 1923 Manhattan Transfer, 1925 Orient Express, 1927 Facing the Chair, 1927 Manual Maples Arce Metropolis, 1929 42nd Parallel, 1930 Panama, 1931 Nineteen Nineteen, 1932 In All Countries, 1934 Three Plays, 1934 The Big Money, 1936 Journeys Between Wars, 1938 Adventures of a Young Man, 1939 The Ground We Stand On, 1941 Number One, 1943 State of the Nation, 1944 First Encounter, 1945 Tour of Duty, 1946 The Grand Design, 1949 USA, 1950 Chosen Country, 1951 District of Columbia, 1952 Most Likely to Succeed, 1954 The Head and Heart of Thomas Jefferson, 1954 Men Who Made the Nation, 1957 Great Days, 1958 Midcentury, 1961 Mr. Wilson's War, 1962 Brazil on the Move, 1963 Occasions and Protests, 1964 Thomas Jefferson: The Making of a President, 1964 The Portugal Story: Three Centuries of Exploration and Discovery, 1964 The Shackles of Power: Three Jeffersonian Decades, 1966 The Best Times: An Informal Memoir, 1966 The Theme is Freedom, 1970 Afterglow and Other Undergraduate Writings, 1990


35 posted on 10/18/2003 12:05:54 PM PDT by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: Austin Willard Wright; arete
Hmmmm...this all sounds VERY familiar...
36 posted on 10/18/2003 12:32:22 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Pray for Terry Schiavo, being murdered by a judge in Florida.)
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To: Dallas59
Invaluable. A great post. Thanks.
37 posted on 10/18/2003 12:37:09 PM PDT by AHerald
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To: Steve Eisenberg
Dos Passos went from being a near-communist in the 1930's to being a true prominent
conservative in the 1950's.


Sounds a bit similar to the path trod by George Orwell...
38 posted on 10/18/2003 12:49:08 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Vigilanteman
Time even named him man of the year in 1938. The western lamestream media has
always had a fondness for leftist dictators. And make no mistake, Hitler was a leftist!


And it's not always just the left-leaning part of the media that falls for
totalitarian dictators.
Although I've never seen it in print, when I was young, older relatives
told me that the Gaylord who was running The Daily Oklahoman empire
in the 1930s and 40s praised Mussolini before the Oklahoma state legislature.

I suspect that in this case, it was an American conservative looking at
another journalist (Mussolini's early occupation) and being awed by how Benito got
to run a country and to some degree actually make the trains run on time...even in Italy.
39 posted on 10/18/2003 12:57:00 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Sabertooth; Timesink
That we are one world is unfortunately a brutal truth. Punishing the German Iraqi people indiscriminately for the sins of their leader may be justice, but it is not helping to restore the rule of civilization.

I think I've heard Wolf Blitzer saying this, hehehe.

40 posted on 10/18/2003 12:58:26 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul (The CA recall's biggest losers are the three musketeers: the RATS, the LAT, and the National Inquire)
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