The government is to be neutral as to a persons religion in regards to his civil rights, not atheistic or secular. Government can acknowledge that there is a God, they can also acknowledge His power over them in regards to God's sovereignty regarding the freedom of the individual. Government is also allowed to acknowledge it's own Christian history and foundations. Government is not allowed to show favoritism to any one religion or denomination by decree or establishment of a national religion that everyone must adhere to.
Those in government do not have to deny their Christianity or secularism or place it in a drawer. Nor does government have to strip itself of the religious symbols of the majority of the citizens of the United States or deny or cast aside it's identity as a government based on Christian principles that adheres to those principles. It is you that has bought a bill of goods, probably comes from public school indoctrination.
As for you inability to understand there will always be those perverts attempting to move the moral line behind them a little investigation into their agendas would be in order. Already phedophiles are finding judges friendly to their lifestyle in Europe the same place that homosexuality found the acceptance that has spread to this continent. Already phedophilia is making the same claims that homosexuals based their legitimacy on.
I assume you mean by this that you feel atheists are trying to stop you from worshipping as you please. Well, if you're telling me that atheists are trying to stop you from worshipping in your home or church, I would like to see some proof of that because I simply don't believe it otherwise.
What I said was, atheists have no business defining where Christians worship or defining where they cannot worship. As for the public schools and the courthouse, government should reflect the community it serves and support that communities efforts to build a moral foundation for their children and fellow citizens to stand on. The majority population in the USofA is of the Christian religion, government should in no way hinder their free expression of their religion in their courthouses, public schools or other institutions.
Like I have said, and back up with the Constitution, the government cannot establish a religion, that in no way means that government must hide it's own religious history or remove "Under God" from the pledge, or "In God we Trust" from it's money, or file down references to God from the marble of it's buildings in Washington D.C.
No where in the Constitution is this mandated, nor was it ever considered that government must be athestic or secular, nor does it deny government a religious identity, it merely prevents government from demanding that all citizens adhere to Christianity. Just because a few judges with a radical agenda have taken the Constitution on a wild ride doesn't mean you have to buy a ticket to ride.
You seem to be confused here. Governments are either secular or theocratic. The U.S. is not a theocracy, therefore it is secular. Secular in this sense is not synonymous with atheistic, as you seem to be using it.
Being a secular government doesn't prohibit Christians from holding office, it doesn't bar a recounting of our Christian roots, and it doesn't require us to strip any symbolism of God from any and all public spaces.
Now, can we put that to rest already?
It is you that has bought a bill of goods, probably comes from public school indoctrination.
OK, Miss, you're geting ugly. I would normally be the last person to bring up my credentials, but before you go and get all condescending on me again, keep in ming I have six years of education at two different Christian universities, with a full two years in Biblical exegesis. Don't get smug and snippy with me about my education. If you had any decency, you'd apologize for that comment, but I don't expect you will.
As for you inability to understand there will always be those perverts [pedophiles] attempting to move the moral line behind them a little investigation into their agendas would be in order.
Sure, I understand that there are those who want to legalize pedophilia, just as there are those who still want to teach that the earth is flat. They're both similarly marginal in our society and both have about the same chances of succeeding in their goals. Keeping this in mind, I don't go into hysterics about it the way you seem to be doing.
Sure, they may keep pushing incrementally, but I don't lose sleep over it. I proise you, legalized pedophilia is not coming to a town near you anytime soon.
atheists have no business defining where Christians worship or defining where they cannot worship.
You're being evasive here. If you mean that Christians (or any religion) should be able to take their worship (something they're free to do in their church) and impose it on the rest of society by 'worshipping' in public at the courthouse or the shcool, then I'm going to say you're absolutely dead wrong. You do not have that right, no matter how many times you contend otherwise.
As for the public schools and the courthouse, government should reflect the community it serves... The majority population in the USofA is of the Christian religion, government should in no way hinder their free expression of their religion in their courthouses, public schools or other institutions.
Again, this goes back to my original post to you. You seem to think that everything is hunky dorey as long as it's not your ox being gored. Do you realize how haughty that is? What about those who are not Christian and do not wish to have your religion imposed on them? Is that just too bad? Should they just leave the country?
We live in a Constitutional representative republic that protects the interests of the minority as much as the majority. We don't live in a society that lives by simple "majority rules". Or were you not aware of that? Maybe you're the victim of public schools, Miss.
You seem to be saying that it's OK for Christians to impose their religion on the public because Christians are the majority. What if in fifty years, Muslims or Buddhists are the majority? Will you concede that Christians should quietly accquiesce and allow the Muslims to impose their religion on the public, since they are the majority? Should the government be allowed to tell little Susie to wear a burka to school?
No where in the Constitution is this mandated, nor was it ever considered that government must be athestic or secular
What part of "Congress shall make no laws respecting an establishment of religion" is unclear to you???
... it merely prevents government from demanding that all citizens adhere to Christianity.
You seem to have taken up that cause all on your own.
If your child wants to say a prayer before her lunch at a public school, who is going to stop her? If you and your family form a prayer circle before going into a court hearing, who is going to stop you?
The answer is, you know it and I know it, that no one is going to stop you. So how is it that you still contend that government is hindering your free expression of religion?
What you really mean is that you want free license to proselytize. And that, you do not have the right to do with the sanction or assistence of the government.