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The conditions in these barracks are deplorable.

Bollocks. I dealt with these kinds of conditions you can deal with it too. The world doesn't get any softer just because current generations of American youth do.

Scabies? And? I've had that myself. The medics gave me a something for it and I drove on with a hard on.

The harshness of training is to prepare you for the even greater harshness of deployment. If you can't take the harshness of training, you will not be able to take the harshness of combat. Harsh training conditions should be considered an asset not an insult.

11 series here for 8 years active.

"The harshness of training is to prepare you for the even greater harshness of deployment. If you can't take the harshness of training, you will not be able to take the harshness of combat. Harsh training conditions should be considered an asset not an insult."

Bullhockey. You didn't read the story. These guys aren't there for training. They're back from Iraq, ill or injured. Don't give me that nonsense about how tough you were. We should not be treating ill and injured soldiers who have come back from Iraq that way.

You're welcome to live in a place with an outside latrine. It's OK with me. I'm a little concerned about returning soldiers who apparently need medical assessment and treatment but who _may_ not be getting it. I want some investigation.

I have no doubt that your a tough guy. You don't have to prove anything to me. I don't care what conditions you had. I want better treatment for returning soldiers that what this story _seems_ to indicate.

Harshness in training is one thing. Harshness for injured soldiers recently discharged from medical hospitals and waiting for medical retirement/discharge processing in medical hold is another.

Ever been in medical hold? I have. I nearly had my head blown clean off in a shipboard explosion. Medical boards and medical hold can go on forever.

The Military treats you until you are well enough to be discharged from the hospital, and then they send you to a hellhole like this to wait for the medical boards and the eventual medical retirement.

Part of the reason they do this is to get you to take the first offer they give you for pension, and therefore they save money.

It also aggravates the problems you have, and many are probably going to have to be re-hospitalized because of the conditions while they wait in the unsanitary hellhole barracks they are assigned to.

I have direct knowledge from my family that injured veterans were bitching about the same thing in WWII, Korea, and the Vietnam era, post Vietnam era, and modern times.

Its a "fine old tradition" that needs to end. These guys deserve to be treated with respect. They definitely arent "soft" because they were injured fighting a war.

Bollocks. I dealt with these kinds of conditions you can deal with it too. The world doesn't get any softer just because current generations of American youth do.

Conditions bad or conditions normal, the quarters are not the issue.

It may be normal to wait weeks for medical care, but it isn't right, and it doesn't make it good policy.

I wouldn't be upset if they were housed in tents and told to dig their own latrines, but they damned well should recieve prompt medical care. At least as prompt as a General Officer stationed at the Pentagon would recieve. After all, they are the real soldiers.

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