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Bush, GOP 'Naive' for Pushing Bill to Help Illegal Aliens, Critic Alleges
CNSNews.com ^ | October 17th, 2003 | Steve Brown

Posted on 10/17/2003 8:53:04 AM PDT by Sabertooth

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"The Republicans are being naive if they don't see the DREAM Act as the vehicle by which the Democrats are going to push for the extension of general amnesty for the whole illegal alien population currently in the United States," Ray said.

"The most troubling thing is that not only is amnesty a bad idea, but nobody seems to be addressing: What about the illegal aliens who arrive the day after the bill passes? Are they going to have an amnesty as well? Isn't that in essence just surrendering the sovereignty of America to any and every one who wants to come here?" Ray added.

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"What we're seeing right now with the discussion of the (DREAM) Act...is our legislators making every possible attempt to try to dress this up and try to present it as something that it's not - to try to disguise the fact that what they're pushing through is a measure that will be received as politically radioactive by the public," Ray said

"The Republicans are at the beck and call of big business that wants a never-ending supply of cheap workers," Ray said, "and Democrats are pushing for an amnesty because they know that these illegals will be future Democratic voters."

If you don't want to vote for Amnesty for Illegals, what do you do?


1 posted on 10/17/2003 8:53:05 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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2 posted on 10/17/2003 8:54:18 AM PDT by Sabertooth (No Drivers' Licences for Illegal Aliens. Petition SB60. http://www.saveourlicense.com/n_home.htm)
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To: Sabertooth
I'd use a lot stronger word than "Naive"
3 posted on 10/17/2003 8:55:15 AM PDT by SAMWolf (A day without sunshine is like night.)
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To: Sabertooth
He is not being naive, he wants the latino vote. That is why he is pushing this bill.
4 posted on 10/17/2003 8:55:54 AM PDT by RiflemanSharpe (An American for a more socially and fiscally conservative America.)
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To: Sabertooth
It is not 'naive' to push bill to help illegals. It is treason or corruption.
5 posted on 10/17/2003 8:59:33 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: SAMWolf
I'd use a lot stronger word than "Naive"

I was thinking the same thing. Another example of the GOP acting like a sea squirt and eating its own brain.

6 posted on 10/17/2003 9:00:57 AM PDT by Cacophonous
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To: SAMWolf
One of my senators is a cosigner on this bill. When the community found out about it they started calling his office. I hope he got the message and withdraws his support. It's a real hot topic!
7 posted on 10/17/2003 9:01:07 AM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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To: RiflemanSharpe
He is not being naive, he wants the latino vote. That is why he is pushing this bill.

So he's willing to do irreparable damage to win re-election (assuming they even vote for him anyway)? That's not naivete that's treason.

8 posted on 10/17/2003 9:02:30 AM PDT by Cacophonous
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To: Cacophonous
"So he's willing to do irreparable damage to win re-election (assuming they even vote for him anyway)? That's not naivete that's treason."
Seems like we are doomed to lose the country I love because both parties are behind this. My take is that white Americans have become too knowledgable about what the elite is doing to them so they need to compensate by diluting the white vote with less intelligent people. IMH(and admittedly biased)O.
9 posted on 10/17/2003 9:09:16 AM PDT by afz400
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To: Sabertooth
So the idiots of Washington try this in an attempt to cover their negligence of enforcing the current immigration law.

We need a new Capitol.
10 posted on 10/17/2003 9:11:47 AM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: Sabertooth
Hatch is an idiot. This guy Ray asks good questions that will be ignored. I am totally disgusted with the lot of these politicians.

Thank God we at least have an initiative and referendum process in Cali to strike down some of the ridiculous laws the local nitwits foist upon us. Unfortunately, we are at the mercy of the Feds when it comes to most immigration matters.

I fear for my country, I really do.

11 posted on 10/17/2003 9:12:34 AM PDT by truthkeeper
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To: RiflemanSharpe
He is not being naive, he wants the latino vote. That is why he is pushing this bill.....same thing Gay Davis did with the Homosexuals, but, it backfired. It strengthened the conservative base which kicked him out.
12 posted on 10/17/2003 9:17:59 AM PDT by GrandMoM ("What is impossible with men is possible with GOD -Luke 18:27)
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13 posted on 10/17/2003 9:19:49 AM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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14 posted on 10/17/2003 9:20:23 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: RiflemanSharpe
He is not being naive, he wants the latino vote. That is why he is pushing this bill.

But it would be naive or worse to think --- after the Davis recall where many hispanics voted for the recall and voted for Schwarzenegger --- that the latino vote is pro-illegal immigration. Plus there is the example of Silvestre Reyes who was strong on border control and he was elected to Congress --- by hispanics --- because of it.

15 posted on 10/17/2003 9:25:18 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: SAMWolf
I'd use a lot stronger word than "Naive"

I kind of wonder why Vicente Fox has so much control over Bush. Vicente Fox isn't doing well at all in Mexico with his own people ---- but he's sure been given much authority over the USA.

16 posted on 10/17/2003 9:27:15 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: azhenfud
How does Mexico City sound?

Thanks El Presedente' Jorge Boooooosh.
17 posted on 10/17/2003 9:38:32 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Sabertooth
I think our old frine Mr Jefferson has already offered a solution to this problem:

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

Take it however you want.

18 posted on 10/17/2003 9:56:34 AM PDT by FierceDraka ("I AM NOT A NUMBER - I AM A FREE MAN!")
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To: Sunshine Sister
Katherine Harris, the Rep. from Florida (and former Sec. of State), helped build this monstrosity. I heard her on Sean Hannity's radio program. She was so giddy and excited about it, and Sean had all he could do to keep from being (understandably) rude. He did ask, "And are the taxpayers going to foot this thing?" Like, who else??

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19 posted on 10/17/2003 10:03:29 AM PDT by Geezerette (... but young at heart!-)
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Katherine Harris? That surprises me a lot. I thought she was conservative. Just goes to show you how quickly they are corrupted in Washington!
20 posted on 10/17/2003 10:11:41 AM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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