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Why won't Rome make "Anglican Use" more widely available to conservative Episcopalians?
Catholic Register ^ | Oct. 16, 03 | churchillbuff

Posted on 10/16/2003 11:35:41 PM PDT by churchillbuff

Today the Anglican bishops in London basically punted on the homo clergy issue. A "commission" will look at the issue - - as if the Bible wasn't already clear.

For those Episcopalians who can't bear to go back to church - - but who treasure the liturgy they grew up with -- why ishn't the Roman Catholic Church making more of a marketing effort to win them over? There's a special liturgy that includes elements of the Episcopal Book of Common Prayer - under a special papal dispensation. But only a handful of churches - mostly in Texas -- use it.

WHY DOESN'T ROME SEIZE THIS MARKETING OPPORTUNITY AND WELCOME CONSERVATIVE ANGLICANS TO CONVERT BY MAKING "ANGLICAN USE" AVAILABLE, AT SOME SERVICE TIME, AT AT LEAST ONE OR TWO PARISHES IN EVERY STATE?

Last week the pope sent greetings to a group of disaffected conservative Episcopalians. Why doesn't he go beyond that and do some aggressive conversion outreach?

WHen the Episcopal Church has made itself into the Metropolitan Church, only with a few more vestments, then I'm sure there are many rank and file who would be welcome an overture from Rome that would allow them to keep some of their best traditions.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: aac; anglican; anglicanuse; catholic; christianity; episcopal; fallout; homosexualbishop; homosexuality; pastoralprovision

1 posted on 10/16/2003 11:35:43 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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2 posted on 10/16/2003 11:46:41 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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As I posted elsewhere tonight, I'd be interested in considering it. Prior to becoming Episcopalian, my background was Protestant Evangelical, but I have done a lot of study over the last few years and find myself increasingly leaning closer to Rome. There are still theological differences I grapple with to varying degrees, but I would give an Anglican Rite Catholic church serious consideration and further study. For someone who finds Anglican-style liturgical worship very meaningful (and leans toward the "high church" or Anglo-Catholic style) but cannot endorse the theology being made up as they go by Episcopal liberals, there aren't a lot of choices...
3 posted on 10/16/2003 11:51:44 PM PDT by GOPrincess
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4 posted on 10/17/2003 12:00:35 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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6 posted on 10/17/2003 12:50:06 AM PDT by Dajjal
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To: churchillbuff
I agree with one of the points of the article that the Anglican Use be made more available; I'd love to go to one at some point.

But I'm dubious of the "why isn't Rome doing more" tack because we don't know what's going on behind the scenes. Also, while the Anglican Use undoubtedly is an attractive incentive to swimming the Tiber, there are crucial theological hurdles to be gotten over as well: not the least of which is the Petrine primacy.

To me, the prudent course of action would be to more effectively promote the Anglican Use on its own (independent of any conversion efforts--just so people know it is an option), and work with prospective converts aaway from the media glare with all due respect for their own theological and doctrinal difficulties.

7 posted on 10/17/2003 1:29:46 AM PDT by Claud
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WHY DOESN'T ROME SEIZE THIS MARKETING OPPORTUNITY ...

Could be because Religion isn't about "Marketing". I don't feel it's necessary for the Catholic Church, or any other religion, to try and turn the Episcopalians' trouble into a numbers game. People will congregate and worship where they feel most comfortable.

What the hey. Does the writer think that if the religion with the most counted numbers will control heaven?

8 posted on 10/17/2003 4:37:00 AM PDT by woofer
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I don't think anybody's seriously suggesting that church be "marketed". It's just shorthand. Call it "outreach" if it makes you more comfortable.

And before people can congregate where they feel most comfortable, they have to know that the church is there. The Anglican Use Rite is practiced only in a handful of churches in Texas and one in Columbia SC. It isn't as well known as it should be.

Because I love the grand language of Archbishop Cranmer's prayerbook and the time-honored rituals of the Anglican church, I would welcome the opportunity to attend an Anglican Use service. And since there is no way we are staying in our current parish, I think we would wind up making such a church our home.

I think I'll call Archbishop Donahue's office and see if they have any plans in the works.

9 posted on 10/17/2003 4:43:51 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . quis homines huiusmodi intellegere potest?. . .)
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*** I think I'll call Archbishop Donahue's office and see if they have any plans in the works. ***

At one time, there was an AU Congregation being formed in Atlanta-I think maybe it was St. Andrew's, but you can do a search on google.
I have no idea what happened to it. The Episcopal Priest who converted to be the RC Priest is now a Priest at a Hispanic Mission Church in GA.
I love the Anglican Use, and yes, most are in TX. Each one is slightly different. There is one in MA, too.
BTW, A Canadian Bishop brought up the question of the AU for Canada, and his brother Bishops turned him down.
It's only in the US, and I agree the Bishops have not embraced it. Cardinal Mahony turned down three Episcopal Parishes who wanted to go AU saying it would hurt ecumenism. The Bishop closed the AU Parish in Las Vegas, NV.
10 posted on 10/17/2003 7:52:26 AM PDT by sockmonkey (Free Republic Rules!)
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The Bishop closed the AU Parish in Las Vegas, NV.

Thank you! I had THOUGHT there was an AU parish in LV, or so I thought someone had once told me, but when I was in LV on a convention a few years ago, I tried in vain to find it - - no mention in yellow pages or information. So there had been one, but it was shut down. Why? Do you know? My own suspicion is that conservative converts from anglicanism scare liberal RC bishops

12 posted on 10/17/2003 10:10:10 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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*** Was it you, sockmonkey, who posted the link to your beautiful church? ***

No, it was NY'er who posted it. It's http://www.atonementonline.com
13 posted on 10/17/2003 2:25:06 PM PDT by sockmonkey (Free Republic Rules!)
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