[dirtboy]

Political economists Henry Jacoby, Ronald Prinn, and Richard Schmalensee put the matter bluntly: “It will be nearly impossible to slow climate warming appreciably without condemning much of the world to poverty, unless energy sources that emit little or no carbon dioxide become competitive with conventional fossil fuels.”

This is exactly what the enviro-whackos want - to use Kyoto to force their vision of sustainable (i.e., severely diminished) development upon the First World.

[SAJ]

Sure is. Which is why we should cut them zero slack and need to, and frequently, every day.

They won't change, of course -- Marxists almost never do -- but those who are not ideologues and/or who have some rudimentary concept of empirical science and methods will sooner or later see the light of day, and it is these two groups who are and will continue to be the ''swing voters'' on the subject.