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To: ancient_geezer
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So data contrary to your view of things is characterised by you as propoganda. Sorry, doesn't fly.

I was referring to the OISM hoax survey in this case. I'm glad you didn't post that tripe again.

23 posted on 10/17/2003 7:14:20 AM PDT by cogitator
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To: cogitator

I was referring to the OISM hoax survey in this case. I'm glad you didn't post that tripe again.

What survey? There is a petition supported by many in the scientific community in opposition to the claims of Kyoto, & UN/IPCC. The only thing fraudulent is the global warming hype mischaracterizing that petition but by no means countering its claim of "no convincing evidence".

This very debate proves the validity of that claim without a doubt.

Petition Project: http://www.oism.org/pproject/s33p357.htm

During the past 2 years, more than 17,100 basic and applied American scientists, two-thirds with advanced degrees, have signed the Global Warming Petition.

Specifically declaring:

"There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gasses is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate."

Signers of this petition so far include 2,660 physicists, geophysicists, climatologists, meteorologists, oceanographers, and environmental scientists (select this link for a listing of these individuals) who are especially well qualified to evaluate the effects of carbon dioxide on the Earth's atmosphere and climate.

Signers of this petition also include 5,017 scientists whose fields of specialization in chemistry, biochemistry, biology, and other life sciences (select this link for a listing of these individuals) make them especially well qualified to evaluate the effects of carbon dioxide upon the Earth's plant and animal life.

Nearly all of the initial 17,100 scientist signers have technical training suitable for the evaluation of the relevant research data, and many are trained in related fields.


25 posted on 10/17/2003 9:44:57 AM PDT by ancient_geezer
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To: cogitator
I was referring to the OISM hoax survey in this case.

If you are referring to the Petition Project, then it is neither a hoax nor a survey.

Human induced global warming works well as a scare-mongering technique in the media and in politics, however, as the Petition Project demonstrated, human induced global warming is simply not a well accepted scientific concept.

42 posted on 10/21/2003 8:38:27 AM PDT by kidd
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