205 migrants die hard, lonely deaths (Barf Alert)

AZcentral ^ | Oct. 16, 2003 | Susan Carroll

[f7Oshawn]

It is a lonely place to die, out in the soft sandy washes. The desert floor, with its volcanic rock, can reach 160 degrees. Most people go down slowly.

Blood starts to seep into the lungs. Exposed skin burns and the sweat glands shut down. Little hemorrhages, tiny leaks, start in the heart.

[FITZ]

If they are peaceful, we should round them up and deport them. If they are violent, we should use violence.

I would be very against violence on the border --- but it may come to that at some point. Some illegals are the most mild-natured type of people, some are vicious criminals, all kinds are coming in obviously. They picked up a 75 year old man who came here to work --- he was very distraught in the holding cell --- because never once in his life had he ever been arrested for anything and at 75 he found himself behind bars --- and he really did come here only to work and get some money. That really is sad ---- but why on earth don't the Mexican leaders do something so that 75 year old men aren't having to come over the border to find work? The reason is ---- they like the system just the way it is because they are getting rich --- and they'll keep that system longer if they can just keep up the immigration levels or increase them.

[Constitutional Patriot]

Maybe they should just stay in Mexico...unless of course they would suffer a worse fate there....

[FITZ]

We probably agree in most places ---- and sometimes my mood changes ---- when I've come home after seeing the illegals out working in the fields in 100+ degree heat, I'm a little more tolerant --- but if I've just come from the grocery store and heard no English but saw all Lone Star cards then I'm more irate. I would say there are illegals who are more harmful to this country and some who are less harmful to this country ---- but either way --- they have their own country which is very wealthy in natural resources and things shouldn't be how they are.

[RoughDobermann]

No offense, but this is becoming tedious. I will say it one last time: these people are invading our country, and any means necessary to stop them is justified.

[RoughDobermann]

I've stated explicitly that with violent illegals (Al Qaeda, narcotraffickers, etc..) we can use violent means to stop them

But how do we identify them? How do we make the distinction between the "violent illegals" and "non-violent illegals"? Do we assume that all are one or the other?

[JustPiper]

Well...this is a huge thread, what is the general consensus?

[JustPiper]

18 of 19 highjackers had state issued driver's license's

[JustPiper]

I suggest you read the daily thread and many links are provided so you can get the entire scope of this problem.

Here

[RoughDobermann]

You haven't explained how this particular problem constitutes an 'invasion.'

Yes, actually I have, repeatedly. You are chossing to ignore my explanantion with your pedantic babbling.

Think a little. You'll help everyone.

More childish banter, I see. It is silly and stupid, to use your words.

I have explained my position to you, and you obviously disagree. It ends there.

[JustPiper]

Have any of you heard that the illegals want to sue the US for not providing water stations in the desert?

You have got to be kidding?!? Do you have a source for this, I would love to have it.

[Fintan]

When the body temperature reaches 107, the brain cooks and the delirium starts.

 

It's about time someone explained how people become liberals.

[Syncro]

I was stating a fact concerning the hypocrisy of the Mexican Government.

Read my post again and you will see I was not advocating anything you mentioned.