205 migrants die hard, lonely deaths (Barf Alert)

AZcentral ^ | Oct. 16, 2003 | Susan Carroll

[f7Oshawn]

It is a lonely place to die, out in the soft sandy washes. The desert floor, with its volcanic rock, can reach 160 degrees. Most people go down slowly.

Blood starts to seep into the lungs. Exposed skin burns and the sweat glands shut down. Little hemorrhages, tiny leaks, start in the heart.

[ought-six]

"Yes, there are legal means of entering the U.S., but if you and your children are starving, would you steal a loaf of bread? People in dire circumstances do things they normally wouldn't."

Oh, spare me. They are not starving in Mexico. I've seen photos of many border jumpers and they look pretty damn healthy to me.

[RoughDobermann]

Thanks, but I'm not confused in the slightest. I believe that illegals (invaders) crossing our border should be shot, period. You, apparently, do not. Clear enough for you?

[Eaker]

Answer: We do want them.

Why don't you ask for a show of hands???

[Gottwnz]

Who said anything about crafting government policy, I'm just sick of seeing MY country invaded by Mexicans what's wrong with that? America is being destroyed, or maybe you haven't noticed.

[FITZ]

They shouldn't be shot. They should be denied all government handouts, they should be prosecuted with a felony crime if they commit one like social security number or other document fraud. I'm not sure all of them are even worth trying to deport. For example the guy working for cash raking leaves in someone's yard but isn't doing anything else wrong is different than the guy using a stolen social security number to take a machine shop job. The illegal bringing over 8 kids for Americans to support is a worse type than the illegal who leaves the kids back home and is only working for anything. I'd rank illegals.

[PuNcH]

If the government does it, it's called an extra-judicial killing.

I guess thats what we'd have to call it then. It is the govt's disregard for the rule of law that is causing the problem.

[Lazamataz]

Then focus your anger on the companies hiring these people and the politicians who allow it to happen. Gloating over the deaths of these unfortunates is demeaning.

No, I'm sorry, I cannot comply with your unreasonable request. I will be focusing my anger on the companies and politicians, AND gloating over the deaths of these would-be criminals.

Dancing on their graves, dancing on their graves, laaaa dee dooo dee deeee, dancing on their graves.... (tappita tappita tappita tap tappity tap tap tap)

[swarthyguy]

Again, for the umpteenth time, why don't you go ask the President, the politicians, the corporate executives, the developers, the people who get yardwork done, the restaurants where these people work.

But no one hear will question the corporations who hire these people. When was the last time someone got nailed for hiring illegals. Heck, they aren't even illegal anymore; as soon as they get drivers licenses, its a defacto citizenship. Apart from Tancredo who's calling for a stop to this?

Then come back asking for a show of hands.

If we didn't want them, we'd shut down the border.

Why don't the executive and congressional branches empower the INS and Border Patrols to shut down the traffic.

Again, this is about the tragic death of these people.

[swarthyguy]

>>Dancing on their graves,

Would the Macarena be appropriate?

[gc4nra]

I agree. Every action has consequences and you should know those consequences before I act. Once I deside to act I should be willing to accept whatever befalls me.

[RoughDobermann]

In my opinion, somewhat entering my country illegally is an invader. Invader's should be killed. Is what they are doing illegal? Yes. Is a teenager having a beer illegal? yes. Are they comparable? No. I will err on the side of caution it comes to invaders.

Again, if you cannot or will not make the distinction between the two, we disagree.

[ought-six]

"These aren't people wanting to bring down the U.S., these are people wanting a better life and risking everything for that."

Where do you live? I guarantee that many of these illegals want to do just that, bring down the U.S. and remaske it into the toilet of a country they left in the first place. The majority of latino illegals firmly support the belief that the American Southwest is legitimately part of Mexico, and the the Americans are the interlopers. That cancer of a belief has now spread way beyond the Amnerican Southwest, and we are seeing it in Illinois, especially in the greater Chicago area, where in many communities the Mexican flag is ubiquitous, and if there is an American flag to bee seen it is used as a tarp or a mat to wipe mone's feet. That's a fact.

[RoughDobermann]

If the citizens do it, it's called murder

Right, but it shouldn't be in my opinion. They are invaders.

If the government does it, it's called an extra-judicial killing

If the government does it (which it won't), it would/should be called stopping an invasion.

[PuNcH]

Oh, and extra-judicial killings certainly show regard for the rule of law don't they?

Im talking about the deaths that are actually happening. The govt and those who disregard the rule of law should be blamed for them.