To: Akira; BMiles2112
Let me break it down for you both. After I break it down, I'll let it be broke. BMiles2112 said, "Democrats would still pull 90% of the black vote while making all sorts of "Uncle Tom" and "House Slave" accusations." This statement may be correct from a prima facie standpoint, but it is still in the negative because it doesn't address the premise behind it. That premise is "why" does this happen.
Get this. The Dems get 90+% of American blacks' vote. In a campaign, no GOP candidate campaigns in black areas. So in these areas, the people believe what the Dems want them to believe because there is no one there to refute the lies.
Bring up ideas to cause interest for the GOP in black people sans pandering, and it will be immediately shot down by so-called conservatives because they say that it cannot be done. Then, with a straight face after an election, they wonder why 90+% of American blacks' votes went for the Dems.
It's six on one hand and a half-dozen on the other. Both are negative. And, so, I'll remain independent.
37 posted on
10/16/2003 3:17:07 PM PDT by
rdb3
(Just to make a statement...)
To: rdb3
To quote Dr. Williams: All it Takes is Guts.
Bottom line: a candidate's going to have to ignore his own nay-sayers and go everywhere, including where he may not be welcome, and talk to everyone in his state/district/county/whatever, including those who might not agree with him.
39 posted on
10/16/2003 3:22:08 PM PDT by
Poohbah
("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Major Vic Deakins, USAF)
To: rdb3
It's unfortunate if you're right. I suppose I'll expose my ignorance here and ask what issues are of interest to blacks and why they would be different from the issues of interest to everyone else.
I can see this being the case for Democratic candidates. The candidate that promises the most handouts to as many interest groups will get the votes, (i.e. elderly, poor, environmental groups, etc.). But I would think that in the case of conservatives, the candidate wouldn't have to campaign in the black area, they would simply have to have the right message, regardless of where that message is given. I live in a small town, and have never seen a candidate campaign anywhere near my area, and it has absolutely no impact on how I vote.
To: rdb3
Well, we're in agreement that the GOP seems to concede the black vote. I've certainly never seen them campaign in east Cleveland. I think they're simply terrified of the "r" word that Bonds or Sharpton or uses with impunity. So their cowardly solution is to ignore scenes that might invite more of this. Consider it broke.
While to say it "cannot be done" is a defeatist attitude, I can't imagine blacks being convinced by somebody like Bush, when people like Bonds or Sharpton or Jesse or Chuck D is telling them otherwise. The truth hurts and they don't want to hear it. "These days you can't tell who's in cahoots, cuz now the KKK's wearing three piece suits" - that speaks to them alot more than the GOP. How do you get them off the mindset that they are all victims of an oppressive and racist society?
I don't have a solution, but it needs one.
53 posted on
10/17/2003 7:19:02 AM PDT by
Akira
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