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Wesley Clark's tanks used in Waco siege
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| 10-16-03
| Kelly Patricia O Meara
Posted on 10/16/2003 12:03:40 AM PDT by ambrose
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posted on
10/16/2003 12:03:41 AM PDT
by
ambrose
To: Matthew James; SLB; Joe Hadenuf; river rat; ExSoldier; Squantos; harpseal; ambrose
"Weasley" Clark Waco Ping.
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posted on
10/16/2003 1:12:39 AM PDT
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: ambrose
Chris Witton wrote an of his tenure with the FBI HRT, titled "Cold Zero: Memoir of an FBI Sniper," and in it he says that FBI agents did in fact operate the Bradleys and other vehicles, after being trained by the military. He specifically mentions being transported back and forth from his observation post in a Bradley driven by a fellow HRT member. I would assume that military personnel were at Waco to handle fuel, maintenance, etc.
Clark may have some culpability here, but IMHO it's no more or less than anyone else in his chain of command.
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posted on
10/16/2003 1:20:36 AM PDT
by
kms61
To: kms61; ambrose
Should read, Chris Whitton wrote an account of his tenure...
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posted on
10/16/2003 1:22:12 AM PDT
by
kms61
To: kms61
I know one former U.S. Army fellow (now retired) who was at Waco; he had just finished an assignment in Florida with an elite airborne Rapid Deployment Unit and was at Ft. Hood on a temporary training assignment when he and others in his small unit were sent to the Branch Davidian compound. He's told me he knew it was absolutely illegal for him and the other active-duty personnel to be at Waco; when he pointed this out to his commanding officer he was told "Orders are orders." I've known this about Clark for years and it isn't surprising that a Rhodes graduate would use U.S. troops against U.S. civilians - to Clark that's what the troops are for, not for the defense of our Constitution and our nation. Clark is more than a hazard to our nation - he's downright dangerous and would have made a perfect general for Hitler when the 3rd Reich was starting to come undone.
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posted on
10/16/2003 2:19:11 AM PDT
by
waxhaw
To: kms61
I know one former U.S. Army fellow (now retired) who was at Waco; he had just finished an assignment in Florida with an elite airborne Rapid Deployment Unit and was at Ft. Hood on a temporary training assignment when he and others in his small unit were sent to the Branch Davidian compound. He's told me he knew it was absolutely illegal for him and the other active-duty personnel to be at Waco; when he pointed this out to his commanding officer he was told "Orders are orders." I've known this about Clark for years and it isn't surprising that a Rhodes graduate would use U.S. troops against U.S. civilians - to Clark that's what the troops are for, not for the defense of our Constitution and our nation. Clark is more than a hazard to our nation - he's downright dangerous and would have made a perfect general for Hitler when the 3rd Reich was starting to come undone.
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posted on
10/16/2003 2:32:23 AM PDT
by
waxhaw
To: waxhaw
Sorry for the double response....
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posted on
10/16/2003 2:33:12 AM PDT
by
waxhaw
To: waxhaw
when he pointed this out to his commanding officer he was told "Orders are orders." And you wonder where all these orders eventually trickle down from...just not Reno, but also the Clintons.
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posted on
10/16/2003 3:24:12 AM PDT
by
chemicalman
(Rid the country of the vast liberal conspiracy)
To: ambrose; autoresponder
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posted on
10/16/2003 3:50:26 AM PDT
by
MeekOneGOP
(Check out the Texas Chicken D 'RATS!: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/keyword/Redistricting)
To: ambrose
Vince Foster supposedly was privy to the entire operation: knew everything and who gave the orders.
At some point he started to come "undone", and therefore dangerous to the Clintons.
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posted on
10/16/2003 4:14:07 AM PDT
by
Victor
To: chemicalman
What I want to know, is WHY Clarke (?), Clinton & Reno approved the use of CS gas on children. Any NBC Officer could (and probably did) tell them that a child's lungs cannot handle an adult dose of CS gas - they will suffocate.
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posted on
10/16/2003 4:15:26 AM PDT
by
Fenris6
To: MeeknMing
Exactly what the Clintons needed in their rise to power: Reichstag general who would follow orders without question.
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posted on
10/16/2003 4:16:32 AM PDT
by
Victor
To: ambrose
At least the headlines old news, reported since his first week in the race.
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posted on
10/16/2003 4:44:19 AM PDT
by
elfman2
To: waxhaw
There is a huge, glaring difference between lawful and unlawful orders, and a soldier is not bound to obey unlawful ones. Your friend understood this, I understood this, and any PV2 with a room temperature IQ understands this. If Weasely Clark tries to say he was just following orders, he's a dispicable, bald-faced liar. During Waco, he had just come on board as the 1CD commander, and he was trying to eat cheese for his new boss and bestest buddy, Klinton the Tool. If there were any justice in this nation, Clark, El Renyo, Larry Potts, Lon Horiuchi, and the rest of the JBTs would be rounded up, dumped into the Straits of Florida during shark migration season, and left in a cloud of thick chum.
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
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posted on
10/16/2003 4:54:07 AM PDT
by
wku man
(Bucs 35, Skins 22...HA!!!!!! Eat that, DC!)
To: ambrose
Based on the fact that military equipment from Fort Hood was used in the siege and that training was provided there, say critics, it is clear the commanding officer of the 1st Cavalry had direct knowledge of the attack and, more likely than not, was involved in the tactical planning.
I'm no Wes Clark fan, but this is not a supportable assumption.
As part of the Army for 20 years, I saw plenty of occasions when a unit was asked for vehicle or other logistic support without being part of the operational planning of those asking for support.
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posted on
10/16/2003 4:54:26 AM PDT
by
xzins
To: Travis McGee
Weasel Clark on the wrong side of the issue of RWANDA as well.
This is a man to be feared by all sides.
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posted on
10/16/2003 4:56:23 AM PDT
by
OldFriend
(DEMS INHABIT A PARALLEL UNIVERSE)
To: ambrose
Imagine Clark as VP helping Prez Hitlery plan little trick n treats for their various
enemies on their lists....
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posted on
10/16/2003 5:24:59 AM PDT
by
joesnuffy
(Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
To: kms61; Travis McGee; harpseal; Matthew James; Valin; Squantos
Clark may have some culpability here, but IMHO it's no more or less than anyone else in his chain of command. Where was the III Corps Commanding General? 1st Cav is just a subordinate unit to III Corps. What about FORSCOM, they are the higher headquarters for III Corps.
kms61 - You are correct, the entire chain of command should have been questioned. Division Commanders do have a boss they report to.
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posted on
10/16/2003 5:27:42 AM PDT
by
SLB
("We must lay before Him what is in us, not what ought to be in us." C. S. Lewis)
To: xzins
I doubt that Clark told Reno and Mizz Clinton sure just take over my base...my men...my equipment ...no problem ..just keep me out of the loop...
Naw they had to ask him for help to implicate him in deeper...given the character flaw notion
Gen Shelton noted...It is quite conceivable..imo..that a well flattered Clark was glad to help out the ladies with their plans
He knew he was under no obligation to help here...he had to have wanted in....to further his ambition he tied his fate to the Clintlers
imo
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posted on
10/16/2003 5:29:03 AM PDT
by
joesnuffy
(Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
To: kms61
Exactly!
As much as I dislike the 'weasel', it is sheer ignorance to postulate that he acted unilaterally. It is equally ignorant to postulate that he had the power to avert the situation that developed.
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posted on
10/16/2003 5:35:25 AM PDT
by
verity
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