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DATE RAPE! DID YOU SEE WHAT I SAW?
CookingWithCarlo.com ^ | Oct 16 2003 | Carlo3b Dad, Chef, Author

Posted on 10/15/2003 10:05:10 PM PDT by carlo3b

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To: gitmo
I'll buy that. But that's now what Nietzsche said. Plus, he thought God was dead. He's probably changed his mind about that by now, though.

very droll

81 posted on 10/18/2003 10:22:32 AM PDT by fqued (The mainstream media wouldn't over-rate anyone, would they?)
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To: OldFriend
Open your eyes, this is not about her behavior, but more about "the scene of the crime". It is possible that something else might have ocurred to change or alter the once existing evidence.

The defendant has a right to any possible witness.

Think of it as tracing steps, it is not as if they are going into her past.
83 posted on 10/18/2003 10:34:12 AM PDT by Dadofmany
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To: ladyjane
DEAR JANE! I hope it is my thread that you are using as a vehicle of response and not me that you directed your observations about the priestly pedophiliac. I would gladly hold them down as you dissect their ungodly members. Unfortunately this case doesn't appear to have any clear victims as those innocent alter boys.
85 posted on 10/18/2003 12:08:12 PM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: mamaduck
"Homeschool Mom Syndrome" :-)

I'll assume, Carlo3b = C- in spelling ...one tough teacher/mom :(

86 posted on 10/18/2003 12:12:32 PM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: gitmo
No, Nietzsche was wrong. There ARE facts. Often we don't know what they are, but the facts exist nonetheless. If facts don't exist, then nothing exists.

As I said earlier, one can posit with reasonable certainty that there are "things" that have an existence and that they exist independently of our perceptions of them. However, "fact" is itself a concept, a mental construct, that is used to describe certain categories of experience or intellectual operations. Also, look at your last sentence for a good joke.
88 posted on 10/18/2003 1:06:37 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: fqued; MeeknMing
Last defense law firm that tried that crud on me cost the defendant over $17 millon dollars.

Was not even close; they settled out of court and hit the idiot defendant for over $5 million in legal costs.

Never mess some people.

Some here on FreeRepublic already know of that case.

No brag, just fact!
89 posted on 10/18/2003 1:06:56 PM PDT by autoresponder (censored & ripped off by Angelfire/Lycos/Tripod lefty PC wimps-caution Hillary's buddy web hosts)
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To: fqued
How about "there are no uninterpreted facts" [outside the Mind of God], which acknowledges the existence of facts, but also acknowledges that our perception of facts is filtered through finite minds.

Or, there is no uninterpreted human experience of reality.
90 posted on 10/18/2003 1:08:25 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: autoresponder
Huh?
91 posted on 10/18/2003 1:13:05 PM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: autoresponder
was that in trial, or at a preliminary hearing?

I am also a lawyer, here in Colorado, and the rape shield statutes seem to be written to only apply in an actual trial. although one could argue that the spirit of the law applies to a prelim, that is not nec what the statute states.

You may have won big bucks, but again, was it in trial or at a prelim hearing? and in what state? and how was the statute written?

Seems also that you are talking about a civil suit, this here is a criminal case prelim hearing. Was your situation a civil suit?
92 posted on 10/18/2003 2:25:42 PM PDT by fqued (The mainstream media wouldn't over-rate anyone, would they?)
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To: aruanan
[I wrote:] How about "there are no uninterpreted facts" [outside the Mind of God], which acknowledges the existence of facts, but also acknowledges that our perception of facts is filtered through finite minds.

[you replied:] Or, there is no uninterpreted human experience of reality.

And . . .? If you are correct, I am not at all certain that this in any way contradicts, alters, illumines, etc. what I wrote. I take it you are agreeing with me?

However, once we start dealing with the basis of human experience, there are certain UNDENIABLE truths.
example: the Law of Non-Contradiction. The LNC cannot be denied, for the very statement of denial invokes the LNC.
Once we get past certain undenial truths, then we can examine how we interpret reality. My statement that there are no un-interpreted facts in no denies that our perceptions of reality do not closely approximate reality, which does, indeed, appear to be the case.

93 posted on 10/18/2003 2:36:05 PM PDT by fqued (The mainstream media wouldn't over-rate anyone, would they?)
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To: Dadofmany; OldFriend; MeeknMing
"tracing steps" = "not going into her past"

"is" = "is"

junk all the existing statutes

anything is legal

where do you park your Jaguar?
94 posted on 10/18/2003 2:43:23 PM PDT by autoresponder (censored & ripped off by Angelfire/Lycos/Tripod lefty PC wimps-caution Hillary's buddy web hosts)
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To: fqued; MeeknMing
Love to go up against that 2 bit defense attorney.

Have blown off far better shysters.

Good for my portfolio.........
95 posted on 10/18/2003 2:46:31 PM PDT by autoresponder (censored & ripped off by Angelfire/Lycos/Tripod lefty PC wimps-caution Hillary's buddy web hosts)
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To: autoresponder
Love to go up against that 2 bit defense attorney

She ain't no two-bit attorney. . . check her CV. You might be surprised. And as a CRIMINAL defense attorney, she is mighty fine, and also probably mighty expensive.

Insulting her is all fine and good, but educated insults do better and hit harder.

96 posted on 10/18/2003 2:53:06 PM PDT by fqued (The mainstream media wouldn't over-rate anyone, would they?)
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To: carlo3b
I don't "do" grades. With homeschooling any mistake is merely a learning experience. No conclusions, no judgments. Cool, huh? :-)
97 posted on 10/18/2003 3:30:27 PM PDT by mamaduck (I follow a New Age Guru . . . from 2000 years ago.)
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To: fqued; MeeknMing
Slick, Hillary, and one Florida attorney were all supposed be hot stuff.

Bill allegedly taught Constitutional Law at a university but claimed he was not a Constitutional "scholar" when things got real dicey; empeached, disbarred, no SCOTUS access.

Give any sharp 15 year old kid a copy of The Federalist and let them read it and study it; not many mysteries there.

Hillary was supposed to be on of the top 100 or top 10 attorneys in the US or somethin' according to who spewed it.

Not researched myself, but I saw credible threads here on FR stating she was only a "rainmaker" and rarely appeared in court herself or handled any serious cases.

Both Slick and Hill were alleged "geniuses"; both turned down for basic MENSA which only requires a dinky mid-130s M certified testing.

Many here on FR with much higher IQs and many with equal or lower that are much "smarter".

JFK had more horsesense with only 119.

He had lots of faults too, but he had more basic smarts and genuine interest in the security of the USA, unlike Teddy.

Hard to admit, but I have some admiration for the unbiased journalism of Maria Shriver compared to Katie Couric.

As for F. Lee and his OJ trial showpiece, most know of his little problems in Florida.

I cannot comprehend how those so high as F. Lee can do such dumb things.

But then look what Slick did on live camera at Ron Brown's funeral and on that jet video with the flight attendant with the camera there clicking away.

But he survived it and went on to 100K-200K speeches abroad.

I would not trade places with him for any amount of money or power or glory.

Whatever "glory" and "power" is.

Talk about selling your soul; marrying Hillary is a bridge way too far!

Tempting to mention some big attorneys and their own local histories but that would be unwise.

Enough of that.

I find the FR "spellcheck" and "grammarcheck" buttons are not working again.......

More coffee.

Forget who posted that interesting odd FR thread on coffee several weeks back.

Good coffee is more important then good beer.

I know that's a wild statement, but there is some merit to it.


98 posted on 10/18/2003 3:34:26 PM PDT by autoresponder (censored & ripped off by Angelfire/Lycos/Tripod lefty PC wimps-caution Hillary's buddy web hosts)
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To: autoresponder
Good coffee is more important then good beer.
I know that's a wild statement, but there is some merit to it.

Not a wild statement at all. Two of coffee's great assets:
1) it is a great pain-killer and accentuates the effects of pain-killers. Caffeine is often added to tylenol--might even be that the caffeine is the more effective pain-killer.
2) brain food--stimulates the brain, but appears to have NO deleterious side-effects (as long as the drinker doesn't have 10 cups a day).

99 posted on 10/18/2003 3:57:25 PM PDT by fqued (The mainstream media wouldn't over-rate anyone, would they?)
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To: autoresponder
My Jaguar is in the garage, why do you ask?
100 posted on 10/18/2003 4:01:46 PM PDT by OldFriend (DEMS INHABIT A PARALLEL UNIVERSE)
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