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To: narses
You would rather people die in mortal sin than follow God's laws?

You have just confirmed my statement above that you would rather have people die a horrible death from AIDS than commit the "mortal sin" of using a condom.

Rubbers aren't mentioned in my Bible; could you cite me chapter and verse for the prohibition on using them to prevent disease and death? BTW, I know plenty of Catholics, and I am happy to say none of them are morally twisted like you.

60 posted on 10/14/2003 9:43:41 PM PDT by WackyKat
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To: WackyKat
You have just confirmed my statement above that you would rather have people die a horrible death from AIDS than commit the "mortal sin" of using a condom.

No, narses and I would rather have them lead moral lives. Then they don't need to die a horrible death from AIDS, and they don't need to use a condom, either.

It's really rather simple, if you're talking about someone using a condom to fornicate, adulterate, or commit sodomy. You see, those acts are crimes against God's law. Not our law: God's law. So, telling people to use a condom to commit sin ("but do it safely!") is exactly like advising a robber, "rob if you must, but wear body armor, so you can do it safely".

Do you plan on taking up a collection to equip robbers with body armor? I thought not.

Now, if we're talking about married couples where one partner has the HIV virus, they should be continent. If, that is, they really love one another. If they don't really love one another but are only using one another for sexual release, then they really should remain continent. Don't tell me it's impossible. Human beings are more than a pair of gonads attached to a checking account, no matter what our society tells you.

BTW, I know plenty of Catholics, and I am happy to say none of them are morally twisted like you.

Narses isn't morally twisted, he/she is morally sane. And the "Catholics" you know are CINOs.

You see, Catholicism, rightly understood (and many who claim to speak for the Church don't rightly understand it, I freely admit), isn't about compromising with the world. It's about turning sinful people into Sons and Daughters of God. And every Catholic on earth is supposed to be willing to submit to "a horrible death" -- martyrdom -- rather than abandon their faith. Every single one. (Incidentally, there are no non-horrible deaths, so your adjective is redundant.) Sorry if that's a little too meaty for you to handle right now. Read some C.S Lewis and Peter Kreeft to discover what real sanity is all about.

63 posted on 10/14/2003 10:14:12 PM PDT by Campion
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To: WackyKat
Safe sex isn't. And you cannot put a condom over your soul, assuming you still have one.
68 posted on 10/14/2003 10:41:41 PM PDT by Thorondir (iSLAM is a disease begging for a cure.)
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To: WackyKat
What the heck does the mention of "rubbers" in the Bible have to do with anything?

Talk about twisted...

BTW, the "morally twisted" person you referenced holds the mainline belief of the majority of Catholics. Keep insulting us...it's helpful.

91 posted on 10/15/2003 6:51:21 AM PDT by Solson (Our work is the presentation of our capabilities. - Von Goethe)
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