[narses]

LOL, you concede the Uganda data and then claim (absent any supporting facts) that condoms are the reason. What motivates your obfuscation? Is it bigotry?

[Snidely Whiplash]

LOL, you concede the Uganda data and then claim (absent any supporting facts) that condoms are the reason.

You haven't presented

any evidence

for your claims that abstinence/fidelty education have been solely responsible for the decline. All you've really done is cherry-pick anecdotes that support your position. That's intellectually dishonest.

I'm pointing out that the decline has been widely attributed to a combination of abstinence and condom availability/use.

It's not controversial, or even disputed: you educate the people you can educate about abstinence and fidelity, and those who won't listen, you attempt to help via other means.

What motivates your obfuscation? Is it bigotry?

As a matter of fact, there, Arses, I'm Catholic. So, no.

Now, what motivates your dissembling?

Snidely

[netmilsmom]

I have no idea what to say to these claims because I have not put the research into the problem in Africa. I do know that they practise "dry sex" which leads to cut in the vagina and spreads AIDS more.

I have to take this from a personal and motherly point of view. If any of you really care for those people in Africa, think of them as one of your children. Would you want your son or daughter taking the risk of a lifethreatening disease on that sense of false securtiy which condoms give? Who knows what the actual percentage of contracting AIDS while having sex with HIV patients. If one does not take the risk, one will never have the risk.

My niece worked at an adult shop when she was in Police Academy. They were told to never tell someone that a condom will protect a person from STD's. They could give additions (ie, dental damns and female condoms - sorry if this is too explicit) and say that it would improve the odds but never give the advice that the condom companies were giving. This store was in the sex trade and if they would not give the advice that the WHO is giving out, why would anyone????