It isn't just over at DU - we've got 'em here too.....And with their attitudes their prophecy will come to pass. It's a challenge, not a defeat - they're just in 1961. No, America didn't show off its' best and newest technology in Iraq. Why should we show our cards to the third string challenger? Our enemies think we are transparent in our military research - and it is in our best interests to let them keep thinking that way. Unfortunately for us in here that tend to give a damn where this nation is headed, the lack of any positive things to point to in our inventory as of late is frustrating as hell.
But if push were to come to shove for real (or for keeps), I think we'd all be quite surprised what black projects have been deployed - and the level of technology they use - without anyone's knowledge. We didn't stop with the W-88, or the MX, or the space shuttle. Our scientific and research communities didn't stop working in the '70s when those programs were designed. How far have they come in 30+ years? How many space launches have mysteriously gone awry exoatmospheric? Who saw these craft disintegrate? What were they really carrying? Think about that.