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Bill Maher Comments on the Rush Limbaugh Drug Addiction Story
Bill Maher ^ | 10-13-03 | Bill Maher

Posted on 10/14/2003 4:04:21 PM PDT by ambrose

October 13, 2003

Rush Limbaugh

A fair number of Independents could be lured in, or back to, the Democratic Party. For me, a litmus test for that would have to be confronting the Drug War, and as I see the media and the Democratic presidential contenders both taking a huge whiff on the opportunity the Rush Limbaugh story provides, I am not encouraged.

For many years, I've been asked 'why do you read the Enquirer?' and have always said, "because I want to know what's going to be in the New York Times next week."

So, a week after I read the Limbaugh story in the Enquirer I read the rehash of it today in the Times, and again: Media, Pols, hello! If any time was the perfect time to make the case about the massive double standard that is the Drug War, this is it. Rush tearfully talks about his addition to a "medication." Yeah, well everybody likes their "medication" in different forms, pally. It would be funny, but substantially the same thing, if on the 6:30 news they sold bourbon and had the voice intone, "Ask your doctor if Jack Daniels is right for you."

Or pot or whatever it is that mixes better with your body chemistry. Because that's all the Drug War is, persecuting people with a different body chemistry than Plan A. Why does one person like scotch, and another loathes it and likes vodka? Or one like cocaine, and another Metabolife?

Who gives a f**k, that's why. The bottom line is, we all pick our poison and shouldn't arbitrarily punish and shame some, and accept and coddle others. There's nothing about preferring the high from oxycontin or liquor or speed (caffeine, ephedra, etc - speed, the drug America really loves) that makes you morally superior to people who like pot or mushrooms or even heroin for that matter, because that's what Oxycontin is, heroin in a pill. Gee, no wonder it's popular.

When it comes to Rush and pills, an analagous situation would be Reagan and guns. After Reagan got shot, what an opportunity to change that debate on guns! Who could argue about at least debating it while he lay in the hospital from a gunshot wound - like how JFK's program got passed so easily after his assassination, or even Bush's after 911.

But Reagan whiffed. Rush has the chance to change America for the better here. But it must involve his admitting the fundamental truths about drugs:
A: Almost all Americans do them, legal or otherwise; B: It's wrong to inconsistently treat fact A.

And Rush, if you don't see it that way yet, let me put it like this: When you're furtively meeting people in parking lots and exchanging ANYTHING in cigar boxes through car windows - OK, that's a drug addict. Issues of personal responsibility is where I often walked with Rush, and this is a classic. A true test of the man. If he comes out of rehab and says, 'I was wrong about our approach to drugs,' he could single handedly change the way America looks at this problem. If he admits that what separates him and Noelle Bush from crackheads is nothing. Nothing except money, race and lawyers. OK, well that is actually quite a lot. But nothing in the way that makes one of them a stronger or better human being. And that's what Rush has to say:

"I am no better or stronger than a crackhead. I lived for the drug, just like he did; obsessed about getting it all the time, like he did; corrputed and lied about everything else in my life - career, health (the hearing problem is related to this, no doubt - check the amount he was taking daily - Elvis is going "whoa, dude, slow down with that s**t"), relationships, like he did. And we both deserve the same treatment: compassion!"

Because Rush wants, and is already getting, a lot of compassion for this. Let me add my full hearted endorsement of that, and hope for a successful rehab, and a happy life for him whatever he wants to do thereafter. Rush Limbaugh was the first one to say "Bill Maher was right" when I was in the hot seat after 911, and I will always appreciate and remember that. He also has a good sense of humor, and enjoys jokes I've done about him. I want to be able to back him.

But he's gotta keep it real when he gets out. If he starts living the morally indefensible double standard he has been defending his whole career, game over. He learned nothing, or is too weak to admit it. That would be a shame, because I think he has it in him to do this, and the power and accomplishment from turning this battleship around would be, well - a rush.

Posted by safesearching at October 13, 2003 01:14 PM


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To: randog
engaging in crime, taking public assistance, etc.

If Rush bought these drugs illegally, he committed crimes and he also used to be on welfare. These are facts.

21 posted on 10/14/2003 4:18:10 PM PDT by ambrose (Free Tommy Chong!)
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To: ambrose
Holy crap! I find myself agreeing with Maher - and I can't stand the twit. Wrap me in a cold, wet sheet til I feel better.
22 posted on 10/14/2003 4:18:53 PM PDT by Lexington Green (Rush is not a terrorist - no matter what Ashcroft says)
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To: ambrose
"...And we both deserve the same treatment: compassion!"

Well we "ALL" deserve Compassion.

Lets hope some of your far left "jerk off buddies" take your advice!

23 posted on 10/14/2003 4:19:44 PM PDT by jaz.357 (The beatings will continue until morale improves!)
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To: ambrose
Jeez, I'd wish he'd just shut his pasty faced, zit scarred, cake hole.

I think that Rush got hooked on drugs.... a lot of folk including our current President said that they've had a problem with alcohol or drugs and are dealing with it by leading productive, meaningful lives.

Do I think drug users should go to jail..... nope, unless they kill, maim, steal or otherwise accept that if they do stuff "under the influence" then, they chose to be under the influence and have to accept the consequences of their actions.

Being addicted to drugs is a punishment to the addict anyway.... the life even though seemingly "having it all" is filled with the knowledge that you are living a "lie" and are a hypocrite. That no matter where you go, who you've become that your true master is the addiction. No family event, no great achievement, no personal triumph supercedes the addiction and the addict's perception of reality. ....Sad

I'm sure that Rush's life is not going to suffer in the long run and this may have been a blessing in disguise. Living a lie is just bad for your mental health, spiritual health and physical health.... and wouldn't that be the sweetest revenge of all...... a healthier, funnier, sober Rush.

24 posted on 10/14/2003 4:20:39 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (Liberals suck...... but it depends on what you mean by the word "suck".)
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To: Lexington Green
Holy crap! I find myself agreeing with Maher - and I can't stand the twit. Wrap me in a cold, wet sheet til I feel better.

Ditto!

He's right! If we stop focusing on kicking Rush when he's down, and instead focus on ending this insane War on Drugs, we might accomplish something. Maher is up for that. What about the rest of you?

25 posted on 10/14/2003 4:20:40 PM PDT by ambrose (Free Tommy Chong!)
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To: Almondjoy
The whole meaning of being addicted is that you can't choose. Only when sober can one choose. Back pain perscriptions left him addicted. He cound not stopped on his own.

I don't see the moral issue yet. I don't remember Rush moralizing on those "bad" addicted people.
26 posted on 10/14/2003 4:20:47 PM PDT by playball0 (Fortune favors the bold)
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To: ambrose
But Reagan whiffed.

That is where I stopped reading .....

27 posted on 10/14/2003 4:20:53 PM PDT by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: ambrose
"When it comes to Rush and pills, an analagous situation would be Reagan and guns. After Reagan got shot, what an opportunity to change that debate on guns! "

Yup. That's how stupid people think.
Stuid people believe. The more emotion in concepts and constructs the more useful they find them.
Disinterested consideration is frightening- there is no surety that it will lead to comfortable conclusions. For the stupid it usually doesn't.

Rush will maintain his considered opinions on the drug culture and drug laws. He will not allow himself to be portrayed as a victim.

29 posted on 10/14/2003 4:21:40 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: Beelzebubba
As much as I oppose the WOD, there is a big difference between starting on a chemical because it was suggested by a doctor in response to chronic pain after botched surgery, and simply "liking" it.

I oppose the WOD, and I love Rush, but getting hooked on your original doctors prescriptions for pain are almost as rare as walking on water. Any reputable doctor will cut you off. I think we can presume Rush could afford a reputable doctor. Once you start shopping for unethical doctors or housekeepers with a connection, it is because one way or the other, you like it.

I took oxycontin last year after shoulder surgery. It is very hard to quit because if feels good, but I don't think it is any more addictive than tobacco.

So9

30 posted on 10/14/2003 4:21:52 PM PDT by Servant of the 9 (A Goldwater Republican)
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To: Beelzebubba
What facts am I asserting that aren't known?

There isn't a difference between those two. If you abuse anything in life you choose to abuse it.. you choose not recognize you have a problem... you choose not to deal with it.

That's why if someone does cocaine once in their life they aren't an abuser while if someone takes pain medication over their prescribed amount then they are an abuser.
31 posted on 10/14/2003 4:23:11 PM PDT by Almondjoy
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To: ambrose
Empty our pockets Mr. Maher. Your taste for nose-candy is well known.
32 posted on 10/14/2003 4:24:01 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: Almondjoy
"He choose to become addicted to them and he choose not to do anything about it until he got busted for it"

I doubt he chose to become addicted. That is like saying somebody chose to get in a car accident. Of course he should of done something about it sooner. That can be said about smokers that get lung cancer. They should of stopped smoking sooner.

33 posted on 10/14/2003 4:24:27 PM PDT by Crispy
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To: playball0
I'm not making it a moral issue.. I could care less about the morality of it.

The fact is Bill is right. Drug abusers are drug abusers.. whether it be legal or illegal substances. Without varying degrees. Rush is as bad as a heroin addict.
34 posted on 10/14/2003 4:24:32 PM PDT by Almondjoy
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To: JackRyanCIA
Oh yeah.. you mean those two times he went and quit the program? You mean those two times he went into the program on an out patient basis? Oh you mean the two times he went into the program and choose to relapse?
35 posted on 10/14/2003 4:26:00 PM PDT by Almondjoy
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To: ambrose
And Rush, if you don't see it that way yet, let me put it like this: When you're furtively meeting people in parking lots and exchanging ANYTHING in cigar boxes through car windows - OK, that's a drug addict.

I'm sorry. No matter how many times I hear or read it, this part of the story does NOT pass the smell test. I'm also a bit dismayed that everyone that's making comments about this story is downplaying that the maid's husband has been reported to be a small time con.
36 posted on 10/14/2003 4:26:02 PM PDT by Thoro (Superman + The Corleone Family = The United Nations)
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To: ambrose
I build planes.
I don't want the person next to me messed up.
I don't want to fly on a plane built by a person who was messed up.
There is alot that is missing from the legalization argument on both sides.
I say decriminalize certain drugs. But don't get torqued at me when I pull a no-notice U.A. on you and you end up getting fired.
As far as Rush goes -- I wish him the best and pray for his health. I feel somewhat betrayed, but then again, I'm glad I'm not in his shoes. He's a great commentator, just like Robert Downey, Jr is a great actor.
I've been trying to kick smoking for about 10 years with no success. I'm not about to criticize someone else's drug abuse.
37 posted on 10/14/2003 4:27:13 PM PDT by baltodog (I'm Polish. I'm left-handed. I'm a drummer. I demand reparations.)
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To: Crispy
See that's where you are wrong. He choose to be addicted. Just like alcoholics choose to be alcoholics. He knows he was doing too much... he choose not to do anything about it. No need to doubt the truth.. addiction is a choice.
38 posted on 10/14/2003 4:28:13 PM PDT by Almondjoy
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To: Thoro
Duh Denial Isn't Just a River in Egypt (TM).


Seriously... I think we need an "Al-Anon" 12 Step Program on the Free Republic.
39 posted on 10/14/2003 4:29:44 PM PDT by ambrose (Free Tommy Chong!)
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To: Thoro
Duh Nile Isn't Just a River in Egypt (TM).


Seriously... I think we need an "Al-Anon" 12 Step Program on the Free Republic.
40 posted on 10/14/2003 4:30:11 PM PDT by ambrose (Free Tommy Chong!)
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