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Bill Maher Comments on the Rush Limbaugh Drug Addiction Story
Bill Maher ^ | 10-13-03 | Bill Maher

Posted on 10/14/2003 4:04:21 PM PDT by ambrose

October 13, 2003

Rush Limbaugh

A fair number of Independents could be lured in, or back to, the Democratic Party. For me, a litmus test for that would have to be confronting the Drug War, and as I see the media and the Democratic presidential contenders both taking a huge whiff on the opportunity the Rush Limbaugh story provides, I am not encouraged.

For many years, I've been asked 'why do you read the Enquirer?' and have always said, "because I want to know what's going to be in the New York Times next week."

So, a week after I read the Limbaugh story in the Enquirer I read the rehash of it today in the Times, and again: Media, Pols, hello! If any time was the perfect time to make the case about the massive double standard that is the Drug War, this is it. Rush tearfully talks about his addition to a "medication." Yeah, well everybody likes their "medication" in different forms, pally. It would be funny, but substantially the same thing, if on the 6:30 news they sold bourbon and had the voice intone, "Ask your doctor if Jack Daniels is right for you."

Or pot or whatever it is that mixes better with your body chemistry. Because that's all the Drug War is, persecuting people with a different body chemistry than Plan A. Why does one person like scotch, and another loathes it and likes vodka? Or one like cocaine, and another Metabolife?

Who gives a f**k, that's why. The bottom line is, we all pick our poison and shouldn't arbitrarily punish and shame some, and accept and coddle others. There's nothing about preferring the high from oxycontin or liquor or speed (caffeine, ephedra, etc - speed, the drug America really loves) that makes you morally superior to people who like pot or mushrooms or even heroin for that matter, because that's what Oxycontin is, heroin in a pill. Gee, no wonder it's popular.

When it comes to Rush and pills, an analagous situation would be Reagan and guns. After Reagan got shot, what an opportunity to change that debate on guns! Who could argue about at least debating it while he lay in the hospital from a gunshot wound - like how JFK's program got passed so easily after his assassination, or even Bush's after 911.

But Reagan whiffed. Rush has the chance to change America for the better here. But it must involve his admitting the fundamental truths about drugs:
A: Almost all Americans do them, legal or otherwise; B: It's wrong to inconsistently treat fact A.

And Rush, if you don't see it that way yet, let me put it like this: When you're furtively meeting people in parking lots and exchanging ANYTHING in cigar boxes through car windows - OK, that's a drug addict. Issues of personal responsibility is where I often walked with Rush, and this is a classic. A true test of the man. If he comes out of rehab and says, 'I was wrong about our approach to drugs,' he could single handedly change the way America looks at this problem. If he admits that what separates him and Noelle Bush from crackheads is nothing. Nothing except money, race and lawyers. OK, well that is actually quite a lot. But nothing in the way that makes one of them a stronger or better human being. And that's what Rush has to say:

"I am no better or stronger than a crackhead. I lived for the drug, just like he did; obsessed about getting it all the time, like he did; corrputed and lied about everything else in my life - career, health (the hearing problem is related to this, no doubt - check the amount he was taking daily - Elvis is going "whoa, dude, slow down with that s**t"), relationships, like he did. And we both deserve the same treatment: compassion!"

Because Rush wants, and is already getting, a lot of compassion for this. Let me add my full hearted endorsement of that, and hope for a successful rehab, and a happy life for him whatever he wants to do thereafter. Rush Limbaugh was the first one to say "Bill Maher was right" when I was in the hot seat after 911, and I will always appreciate and remember that. He also has a good sense of humor, and enjoys jokes I've done about him. I want to be able to back him.

But he's gotta keep it real when he gets out. If he starts living the morally indefensible double standard he has been defending his whole career, game over. He learned nothing, or is too weak to admit it. That would be a shame, because I think he has it in him to do this, and the power and accomplishment from turning this battleship around would be, well - a rush.

Posted by safesearching at October 13, 2003 01:14 PM


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To: Beelzebubba
What is wrong with seeking pleasure as opposed to seeking utilitarian pain relief? Does it make them less useful cogs in the machine?
161 posted on 10/14/2003 9:21:31 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
Just curious, do you think EIB employees have to submit to drug tests? I've often wondered if CEO's have to submit to the same drug testing as shift workers down at the local plant.
162 posted on 10/14/2003 9:28:32 PM PDT by Ches
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To: ambrose
I prefer morphine.
163 posted on 10/14/2003 9:30:45 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Beelzebubba
There is a difference between getting addicted to something you start for recreational purposes, ans getting adicted to something you start for medical purposes.

No, there isn't. A drug addict is a drug addict.

164 posted on 10/15/2003 5:38:36 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: wirestripper
Rush was being treated for pain as a result of a back condition. With the time and dose involved with that, the addiction was as sure as the sun comes up in the morning.

Right . . . a medical doctor of the talent and stature Rush could probably afford to hire oversaw his complete and utter addiction to hillbilly heroin as a legitimate treatment plan for back pain.

Rush defenders on FR become outright contortionists when trying to deflect responsibility from their Binky.


165 posted on 10/15/2003 5:45:11 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: JackRyanCIA
I find it interesting that you Rush Bashers never have a personal page or a state you call home. Every one of you. How do you say Liberal DUer. Go home!

I've been here a lot longer than you have, bub, and yes, I'm a Rush basher.

166 posted on 10/15/2003 5:46:10 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: robertpaulsen
Our "approach to drugs" has nothing to do with his admitted addiction to prescription drugs. Perhaps you'd care to explain? Am I missing something here?

Rush only admitted it as a result of a criminal investigation.

167 posted on 10/15/2003 5:49:00 AM PDT by VRWC_minion (Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
Hard to say what Rush is admitting to himself, as opposed to what he's admitting publicly, but so far not much I've heard from him indicates that rehab will be successful. He hasn't admitted the the real root of his addiction.
168 posted on 10/15/2003 5:50:29 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: shrinkermd
In a certain sense, the WOD is a misnomer. We should call it a war on dealers. In the meantime, users are not prosecuted with any vigor; hence, we have a schism between what we think we want --control of access--and what we actually want--dealers only punished--resulting in a failing WOD.

Baloney that drug laws only target dealers or that cops only focus on dealers---take a look at the actual drug laws for a given state, like Massachusetts' drug laws. Possession of a drug over a certain threshold amount makes one a "dealer" (i.e., possession with intent to distribute) de jure . . . the government does not even have to prove intent to distribute. Further, I did a statistical analysis on the drug task force of the city of Cambridge, MA. Far from targeting just dealers, an astounding percentage---well over 50%---of their anti-drug activity was busting marijuana users for simple possession. I don't have a copy of the research paper in front of me, but will gladly post it tonight if you want me to.

169 posted on 10/15/2003 5:54:41 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: ambrose
If he admits that what separates him and Noelle Bush from crackheads is nothing.

This from the folks for whom, when it's one of THEIRS on the ropes, there are no absolutes.

170 posted on 10/15/2003 5:57:51 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: Wolfie
He hasn't admitted the the real root of his addiction.

I agree 100%. I heard that apology and all I heard was a man trying to "take responsibility" for his actions by rationalizing . . . my doctor did this to me, this was medication (not drugs), etc. Obviously Rush has an addictive personality, and he's going to have to deal with this before he gets better. I hope for his sake he does, and I hope that when he gets back on the radio, he'll rethink his attitude w/r/t the WoD and maybe the Dittohead Zombies will finally line up on the CONSERVATIVE side of this issue.

171 posted on 10/15/2003 6:05:25 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: Almondjoy
My wife had a C section and took maybe five Vicodin during the whole three day recovery period.

She told me that she found herself going through mild withdrawal symptoms from it. I talked to doctors about it later and they all said Vicodin is a blunt object, and it ought to be doled out in single digit numbers of pills.

Today it is massively over prescribed. Some with OxyC.

The 'choice' of becoming addicted comes in the form of waking up one day and deciding to put aside the Vicodin this morning and finding out that while the thing that originally hurt doesn't hurt, your whole body feels bad because you didn't get your dose. You don't feel 'normal' without it.

If you drink coffee heavily, go without it for a couple of days cold turkey and then give me a shout. Now multiply that by a bunch and you have addiction to pain killers.

Addiction to pain medication isn't a choice. You should read a little before you oversell an argument as 'indisputable'.

We are all weak. We are a knee injury away from being addicts in most cases. Medical science has a LONG, LONG way to go in understanding pain management in any advanced sense of that word.

Easy with the 'indisputable' big fella. Things in life rarely are.
172 posted on 10/15/2003 6:08:29 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: wayoverontheright
Rush has been to rehab several times before, and always falls back. This level of addiction is more than heroin heads. I think he is finished. Hannity is more than capable of carrying the torch. Unless they discover something in his closet?
173 posted on 10/15/2003 6:09:06 AM PDT by philosofy123
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To: freekitty
What planet are you living on?
174 posted on 10/15/2003 6:09:19 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: ambrose
Philosophically I cast my vote with those who understand that drug abuse needs to be treated as a medical issue not a criminal one. Drug pushers should still be criminals but their customers who are typically the primary victims in the equation should be rehabilitated not incarcerated.

Isn't it possible that the reason for the complete failure of the WOD is simply it is the wrong strategy.

Do we really want to solve the problem or just look tough attacking it?
175 posted on 10/15/2003 6:10:06 AM PDT by awgie2
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To: Wolfie
....but so far not much I've heard from him indicates that rehab will be successful. He hasn't admitted the the real root of his addiction.

Megadittoes.

;)

176 posted on 10/15/2003 6:12:14 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: Servant of the 9
"but I don't think it is any more addictive than tobacco."

Which is to say its one of the most addictive substances on the planet?
177 posted on 10/15/2003 6:21:08 AM PDT by toothless
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To: VRWC_minion
Your original statement was, "Rush wouldn't be in rehab were it not for our "approach to drugs".

Rush admitted he went into rehab twice before without a criminal investigation. So, I'm asking how he wouldn't be in rehab if our "approach to drugs" were any different.

178 posted on 10/15/2003 6:37:04 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: ambrose
A Bill Maher article I was actually able to read to the end!
179 posted on 10/15/2003 6:41:10 AM PDT by sweet_diane ("Will I dance for you Jesus? Or in awe of You be still? I can only imagine..I can only imagine.")
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To: ambrose
I was wondering why Rush didn't leave for 30 days of surgery and physical therapy, if he only bought the illegal pills because his doctor was restricted from prescribing more. I've seen it stated on FR that he was only trying to manage his physical pain and therefore, not an addict.

If OC was the only thing keeping him functioning, how will he ever be able to return to the golden EIB mic? Or did he come to a point where he liked what the pills did for him beyond managing the physical pain?

180 posted on 10/15/2003 6:48:38 AM PDT by sweet_diane ("Will I dance for you Jesus? Or in awe of You be still? I can only imagine..I can only imagine.")
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