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Say it aint so! Rumsfeld is closing the MIRAMAR Air Base!
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Posted on 10/14/2003 11:50:37 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

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The entire list of over 100 bases recommended for closure can be found here. While I would hate to see my old stoping grounds turned into high-priced housing, the Marines dont really need the base in the future, and the Navy left long ago. There will not be enough aircraft or squadrons to support keeping the old Fightertown when the government can get Billions selling the land for redevelopment.

I dont like it emotionally, but it makes logical sense. I visited the old Alameda Air Station last weekend when I was in the Bay Area to work the Blue Angels show, and it was a very sad experience to see that once thriving base borded up like a condemned apartment complex. I expect San Diego to have enough economic activity to turn Miramar into a thriving community. If so, I might just move over from Mira Mesa.

1 posted on 10/14/2003 11:50:38 AM PDT by Pukin Dog
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2 posted on 10/14/2003 11:52:19 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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The tragedy: Taxpayers footed the bill for more than $0.5B (that's billion with a 'b') in improvements to NKX so that the Marines could move in! What a waste...
3 posted on 10/14/2003 11:57:34 AM PDT by quark
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To: Pukin Dog
Wasn't there talk a few years ago about turning Miramar into a International Airport for San Diego and closing Lindburg?
4 posted on 10/14/2003 12:01:35 PM PDT by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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The entire list of over 100 bases recommended for closure can be found here.

That appears to be one man's list, not an official BRAC list. Certainly the reasoning is a bit too simple as many more issues need to be dealt with than what the author suggest.

5 posted on 10/14/2003 12:01:56 PM PDT by Always Right
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Read the article, Ditto.
6 posted on 10/14/2003 12:02:34 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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From the bottom of the page:

Once again, this is not an official list, just bases likely to be closed. This list is continually modified with reader input so comments are welcome. Carlton Meyer editor@G2mil.com

7 posted on 10/14/2003 12:03:14 PM PDT by Always Right
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The article is a copy of the recommended list. Every base mentioned is on it. This version was just easier to post.
8 posted on 10/14/2003 12:03:23 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Always Right
I have seen the official list, and every base in this list is on it. Either the author is a psychic, or he might have been covering his ass?
9 posted on 10/14/2003 12:04:31 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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The article is a copy of the recommended list. Every base mentioned is on it. This version was just easier to post.

I don't think any offical list has been released, although I do believe an unoffical list was leaked by someone, and this appears to be somewhat based on that. But as the author clearly states, this is not an offical list.

10 posted on 10/14/2003 12:06:04 PM PDT by Always Right
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The list came out TODAY, friend. That is why I waited to post this; to see if Miramar stayed on the list. Get it? You wont see the list until someone transcribes it. What I posted is accurate.
11 posted on 10/14/2003 12:10:33 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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The list came out TODAY, friend. That is why I waited to post this; to see if Miramar stayed on the list. Get it? You wont see the list until someone transcribes it. What I posted is accurate.

If there is an official list, that's great and I am not questioning your accuracy. I am just stating what this source says this list is.

12 posted on 10/14/2003 12:16:07 PM PDT by Always Right
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If the civilians don't like the noise made by tactical aircraft operating during certain hours of the day, they're gonna LOVE 747 sized airplanes flying in 24/7.
13 posted on 10/14/2003 12:16:36 PM PDT by IGOTMINE (He needed killin')
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Actually, Marine Hornets make a lot more noise than a 747. By the way, you pinged me to the F-22 incident. Did you read my reply?
14 posted on 10/14/2003 12:20:38 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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Oh, no.

What will Maverick and Goose do????

No tower to buzz.

15 posted on 10/14/2003 12:20:46 PM PDT by narby
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No problem, and excuse me but I have an emotional attachment to Miramar. I'm in a position to see this data long before it is public knowledge, but I saw no problem in putting this up, since it is going to happen.
16 posted on 10/14/2003 12:22:08 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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I did read your reply...very illuminating. "Just let go" would be hard to do for a guy with a few thousand hours in an airplane that requires you fly it all the time.

By the way, the work on my screenplay "THe Cactus Airforce" continues apace. I'm working with a lawyer to make sure I don't set myself up for a lawsuit. The air part of it practically writes itself. One Wildcat jock got into a tangle with a Japanese Pete, a float biplane that could turn like an SOB. He ended up making a head on pass which resulted in a mid-air. Once again the Grumman Ironworks came through, and the guy made it back to Fighter One with control surface damage. After he landed, he inspected the plane and found wing fabric from the float plane jammed into his flaps. When he pulled it out, it had the Rising Sun insignia on it. Talk about your lifetime souvenirs!
17 posted on 10/14/2003 12:27:15 PM PDT by IGOTMINE (He needed killin')
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"The best way to save money for more aircraft is to shut down excess air stations"

Makes sense. At least they aren't doing what the Clinton Admin did, which was to shut down bases completely, there was no consolidation or joining, or building in other areas.

Looks like streamlining might save money over the long haul.
18 posted on 10/14/2003 12:30:35 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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Sounds nice, I'd love to see it sometime. Good luck with that.
19 posted on 10/14/2003 12:31:54 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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There are hundred of thousands of people who are gonna be effected by base closures. I have friends and family who work on some of the bases in question. Some bases are up for realignment while others might be up for closure, which I don't think this list distinguished between. These descions will have major impact on people, so I just want to make sure what is being posted.
20 posted on 10/14/2003 12:32:14 PM PDT by Always Right
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