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16-year-old sentenced to 20 years in prison [addicted to OxyContin]
news-press.com ^ | 10-14-03 | news-press.com

Posted on 10/14/2003 1:53:04 AM PDT by ambrose

Edited on 05/07/2004 6:06:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Richard Lee Daniel was 15 when he went on a crime spree that started with seven stolen vehicles and ended in the brutal beating and robbery of a 73-year-old woman.

The North Fort Myers boy is 16 now and began paying the price of his actions Monday when he was sentenced to 20 years in prison.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
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To: dennisw
The real answer is escalate the war on drugs and start executing big time meth., crack and heroin dealers. And exile a lot of other drug dealers.

And what will be your answer when that doesn't work?

Having Rush Limbaugh sentenced to death as a message to drug users?

121 posted on 10/15/2003 9:33:46 AM PDT by twittle
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To: bvw
So what is your definition of "complete government control"?
122 posted on 10/15/2003 9:45:17 AM PDT by CSM (Congrats to Flurry and LE!)
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To: Impeach the Boy
you will just have to accept that people who HAVE read the Constituion, the writtings of the Founders, and have read the long winded disertations of the anti-WOD soldiers just disagree.

I accept that you've read the Constitution. As you know, the Constitution requires that the Federal government must have a power granted to it to exercise that power.

Where, in your reading and understanding of the Constitution, does it grant to the Federal government the power to wage a WOD?

123 posted on 10/15/2003 11:40:53 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: ambrose
Ricky is an extremely intelligent, loving, caring, sensitive, impressionable child, Diane Mullins said in a note she handed to a reporter.

"He only steals cars and beats up women because they want him to", she added.

124 posted on 10/15/2003 11:46:32 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Impeach the Boy
We support the police in their efforts to stop the death, destruction, crime and heartbreak caused by drugs.

Efforts that have had no demonstrable effect other than to create new deaths, destructions, and heartbreaks.

125 posted on 10/15/2003 2:47:10 PM PDT by MrLeRoy (The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. - Jefferson)
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To: mass55th
The wrong side of liberty? Pardon me, but I think you'll find yourself in the minority when it comes to being anti-drug laws.

I agree that I am currently in the minority as to whether or not we should have bans on the use of some drug. I do hope, however, that your is not reflective of some confusion between democracy and liberty. Democracy is a form of government. Liberty is an inalienable right and, in theory at least, beyond the purview of government. The right to free speech, for example means we don't get to vote on whether or not to ban the publication of the New York Times.

I am probably as opposed to the abuse of drugs as you are. I am certain that the reason I don't consume drugs has nothing to do with whether they are banned or not. I firmly believe that prohibition of drugs, like that of alcohol, has the net effect of increasing their use as people are attracted to the forbidden and desirous of thumbing their noses at those who would shackle them.

Beyond the restriction of liberty which I believe is the most serious and damaging consequence of prohibition, there are other deleterious side effects. The establishment of a black market yields alternative methods of law enforcement including gang intimidation and violence, corruption of legitimate power, untaxed commerce, and impure product. Enforcement of prohibition requires appropriation of resources that might be more effective used in combatting crimes of coercion and terrorism, and imprisons what would otherwise be productive members of society, depriving us all of that productivity, compelling us all waste resources on the trials and incarcerations, and propelling some into a life of legitimate crime as they learn on the "inside" and find their opportunities limited as ex-cons.

Prohibition also corrodes societal trust as prohibitionists find it necessary to lie when they fail to achieve their goals via enforcement. Decades ago, a story, supposedly published but I suppose it could be what is now called an urban legend, about a group of college kids who went blind after smoking marijuana and staring into the sun. On this forum, we were recently treated to the testimony of those that assured us that Rush Limbaugh could not possbily be guilty of taking all those drugs as he would have been either comotose or dead.

I believe the most effective method of dealing with drugs is by simply telling the truth. Given the right information, we will, by and large make responsible decisions. We aren't all at risk of imminent addiction should some statutes be overturned. Will some become addicted? Most likely, but that's the case now. To suggest we will become a nation of addicts is ridiculus. Will there be fewer or more addicts? My honest opinion is there will be fewer, experimentation may increase, but addiction will decline.

And as far as the laws being overturned...it sure as hell won't happen in my lifetime, perhaps not even yours.

You will be proven at least partly wrong. Britian and Canada are moving away from marijuana bans. Citizens of our states are beginning to favor the approval of medical marijuana. Bans will begin to crumble. It will happen.

126 posted on 10/16/2003 5:17:03 AM PDT by laredo44
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To: Impeach the Boy
After years of long winded posts, disertations, essays, and the like, the anti-WOD crowd had not made any significant headway.

Provide evidence for your claim.

127 posted on 10/16/2003 6:03:17 AM PDT by MrLeRoy (The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. - Jefferson)
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To: dennisw
These numbers were very small compared to the ranks of "night of the living dead" pot heads we have today

Provide evidence for your claim.

128 posted on 10/16/2003 6:05:27 AM PDT by MrLeRoy (The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. - Jefferson)
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To: mass55th
Only conservatives can be HYPOCRITICAL because the SOCIALIST/MARXIST lefties amongst us CONDONE & ENCOURAGE every abnormal behavior in this society thereby rendering themselves incapable of being labled with most insidious of all titles, the BIG HYPOCRIT.
129 posted on 10/16/2003 6:13:20 AM PDT by PISANO
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To: PISANO
How true.
130 posted on 10/16/2003 6:14:46 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: MrLeRoy
Provide evidence for your claim.

Take a hike, clown. I can't help it if you have no common sense.

131 posted on 10/16/2003 8:16:36 AM PDT by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: dennisw
These numbers were very small compared to the ranks of "night of the living dead" pot heads we have today

Provide evidence for your claim.

Take a hike, clown. I can't help it if you have no common sense.

This is what passes for reasoned debate among WODdies.

132 posted on 10/16/2003 8:21:15 AM PDT by MrLeRoy (The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. - Jefferson)
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To: MrLeRoy
Hey, MrLeRoy, I love taking a good hike through rough terrain! In reality, that is. Glad to see you are calling the bluff of those who refuse to trust most other sane adults -- yet would allow a small group of such adults to tyrannize the rest of us. That is a schizophrenic view.
133 posted on 10/16/2003 8:27:54 AM PDT by bvw
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To: MrLeRoy
Are you nuts? EVIDENCE!!!!....pick a day, pick ANY day...perform a search of FR....look at your OWN profile page.
134 posted on 10/16/2003 9:10:40 AM PDT by Moby Grape
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To: Impeach the Boy
the anti-WOD crowd had not made any significant headway.

Provide evidence for your claim.

look at your OWN profile page.

Where is the evidence there that the anti-WOD crowd had not made any significant headway?

135 posted on 10/16/2003 9:13:14 AM PDT by MrLeRoy (The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. - Jefferson)
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To: MrLeRoy
Prove that the LP has not made headway you challenge....You just LOVE punishment, or you are on drugs (just kidding about the drugs)...

Okay, pal. WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE VOTE DID BROWNE GET IN 1992?

WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE VOTE DID BROWNE GET IN 2000?

Gee, it is just too easy.
136 posted on 10/16/2003 5:10:12 PM PDT by Moby Grape
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To: Impeach the Boy
Where is the evidence there that the anti-WOD crowd had not made any significant headway?

Prove that the LP has not made headway you challenge

Wrong. Re-read for comprehension:

"Where is the evidence there that the anti-WOD crowd had not made any significant headway?"

137 posted on 10/17/2003 6:11:28 AM PDT by MrLeRoy (The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. - Jefferson)
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