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TOLERATING RUSH LIMBAUGH
RealClearPolitics.com ^ | 10/13/03 | Tom Bevan

Posted on 10/13/2003 7:21:20 PM PDT by NYC Republican

I was one of three panelists on Bruce DuMont's "Beyond the Beltway" radio/television show last night. Bruce had planned on spending the first 20 minutes or so of the program discussing Rush Limbaugh and then moving on to other issues like the California recall election, the war in Iraq, and the 2004 Democrat presidential race.

But within minutes of mentioning Rush's name, the phone lines lit up like a Christmas tree and stayed that way for the next 2 hours. Comments from callers ranged all across the board: everything from "he's a scumbag hypocrite who got what he deserved" all the way to "liberals are liars and cheats with no moral standing on which to judge others." Talk about your rollercoaster.

Anyway, as the only Republican/conservative on the panel, I ended up in the somewhat unenviable position of trying to defend Limbaugh's alleged drug habit. Actually, let me rephrase that. I really didn't defend Rush's actions other than to say I thought that 1) he had a personal problem that required treatment, 2) he made a courageous and poignant effort in addressing the issue on Friday and 3) he should face the consequences of his actions if he's convicted of breaking the law. Maybe this will lead to Rush doing some time, maybe it won't (I'm not a lawyer but I'd be surprised if a first offense will result in Rush going to prison). The point is that Rush Limbaugh shouldn't be above the law.

What I did defend over the course of the show, however, is the predictable argument that conservatives are all hypocrites because they dare to discuss "values" and "morality" and then have the nerve to defend people, including some of the most notable leaders of the movement like Limbaugh and Bill Bennett, whose own personal failings, vices, sins, etc. are exposed.

First, let me say I will concede that, generally speaking, people don't like to be "lectured to." I'll also concede that people have every right to look at an individual's past actions to make a critical evaluation of their positions and/or credibility on a given issue.

But the core of the liberal argument is that in order for anyone to discuss "morality" or "values" of any kind, he or she must be an absolute paragon of virtue in every respect. This is absurd on its face. Taking this argument to its logical conclusion would result in a very small group of people having a very brief discussion on morality in American life - probably somewhere in the middle of Kansas.

I may decide I don't want to take Rush Limbaugh's advice on drugs, Bill Bennett's advice on gambling, or have Bill Clinton give me tips on marriage, but that doesn't mean these men should be automatically disqualified from discussing "values" or "morality" in any way - especially as they relate to the formulation of public policy in this country.

One panelist actually told me the difference between liberals and conservatives is that "we preach tolerance, you preach morality" - as if the two are somehow mutually exclusive. I almost laughed. "That's it America! You can be either A) moral and intolerant or B) tolerant and immoral. Make your choice."

In one sense, though, the panelist was correct: the term "tolerance" has become the all encompassing catchphrase of liberals and progressives everywhere. It has, in effect, become their morality.

"Tolerance" used to stand for the simple idea of religious and racial freedom and equality. It used to stand for the concept that while we may not necessarily agree with each other, we would strive to see and respect each other as American citizens, equal in the eyes of God and the law.

Unfortunately, that's only a small part of what "tolerance" stands for today. The word "tolerance" has now been expanded to encompass a whole host of issues, from abortion-on-demand to affirmative action to homosexual marriage to school choice. The list is practically endless.

And by collating all of these various issues under the umbrella of "tolerance," liberals have now defined any opposition to these policies - irrespective of fact, debate or merit - as "intolerant." End of discussion.

This is one reason why, I believe, a good number of liberals have come to see conservatives not just as fellow citizens with a differing world view, but as truly hateful, nasty people who want to roll back the clock to the days of Jim Crow, child labor and back-alley abortions.

It's an astonishing feat, really. Progressives have spent the last few decades carving America up into tiny little pieces, nurturing and germinating a multitude of hyphenated interest groups, and at the same time they've managed to boil everything down to singular litmus test of tolerance.

It's been an effective strategy - especially as practiced in the last decade by Bill Clinton. But the result hasn't been such a good thing for the country. We've now seen the concept of "tolerance" turned on its head. Today "tolerance" is used as a bludgeon to intimidate opponents and stifle debate, and its most devoted practioners are really and truly the least tolerant people in America. - T. Bevan 10:34 a


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To: joesbucks
google found the reference

the hyperlink to the webpage sourced is above the quote.
21 posted on 10/13/2003 8:52:30 PM PDT by ancient_geezer
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To: Richard Kimball
The left hates Limbaugh because he plays back the things they say in the context of the real world. This makes what they say seem very, very stupid, and very, very funny. And they just like to be liked, but it's not their fault! ;-)
22 posted on 10/13/2003 8:57:55 PM PDT by SubMareener
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To: joesbucks
PS

The referenced transcript can be found many places on the web through google. Many sites that specifically address news concerning the problems with the WOD use the same transcript.

Often google & other web search engines will find stuff that Lexus/Nexus, which concentrates on what is in the print media, as will not find. Not everything shows up in print articles.
23 posted on 10/13/2003 8:59:17 PM PDT by ancient_geezer
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To: tessalu
"I think that the housekeeper for Rush Limbaugh may have meant her tale to do him ill, but in fact, she may have saved Rush Limbaugh's life. for which I thank her. I have seen more than one person addicted to pain killers, and it is not a criminal act, for it is an act to try to escape unbearable pain. I hope this all works out for the good."

Tess,

Im sorry to disagree with you, (if the story is accurate) Rush did commit a criminal act. If he was given prescription medication by a Doctor and took it in overdoses, that is not a criminal act. Rush illegally purchased narcotics that he did not have a legal prescription for. This difference between Rush and a street junkie is that Rush has the fiscal resources, to be able to illegally purchase legal narcotics, instead of relying on a street corner dealer.
24 posted on 10/13/2003 9:05:31 PM PDT by For_God_and_Country
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To: stevem
Liberals know what's best for all of us, haven't you learned that by know? How primitive of you and the rest of us cavepeople(conservatives) to not open our eyes and realize the truth in front of our noses. If it were'nt for those learned liberals, we would all spend our time riding mechanical bulls and clapping for Toby. Thank god we have been shown the light.
25 posted on 10/13/2003 11:10:12 PM PDT by Group Captain Mandrake
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To: davisfh
Heard she was given immunity :(
26 posted on 10/13/2003 11:13:20 PM PDT by Libertina (Steadfast loyalty - The sign of a true friend and leader.)
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To: Group Captain Mandrake
You won't last long.


27 posted on 10/13/2003 11:15:28 PM PDT by rdb3 (Whoever said progress is a slow process wasn't talking about me. I'm an N-U-P-E.)
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To: joesbucks
You can find it at: http://rushtranscript.blogspot.com/

I'm not sure of the source, but his transcripts are hard to find. He may have used an hour of his show on Oxy on July 30, 2001.
28 posted on 10/13/2003 11:25:12 PM PDT by IfYouSaySo (Just cuz I'm conservative doesn't mean I need to check my brain at the door)
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To: joesbucks
Sorry, their archive will not get it. Too far back.
29 posted on 10/13/2003 11:29:10 PM PDT by IfYouSaySo (Just cuz I'm conservative doesn't mean I need to check my brain at the door)
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To: For_God_and_Country
You're right. If Rush obtained these medications from other than legal sources he committed a criminal act whether he is tried or not. If Rush obtained more than the allowed number of prescriptions from legal sources then whether tried or not or convicted or not, he committed a criminal act.

We need to seperate they need for wishing Rush a speedy recovery and the blessings of Christ from the rule of law. Rush may have broken the rule of law. That would by definition of most states mean he committed a criminal act if he indeed did.

30 posted on 10/14/2003 3:41:56 AM PDT by joesbucks
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To: NYC Republican
It's not that libs don't believe in morality, it's only the way they define it that they differ. They are very intolerant of anyone who doesn't agree with each and every one of their screwball theories and positions on social and poltical matters. They hate old-fashioned morality and ethics and want to substitute their own new age crapola. Remember libs wrote the book on political correctness and are the first ones to start name-calling when they lack a legitimate argument...something they are unfamiliar with. The idea that libs are tolerant and do not judge people is absurd and risable on the face of it.
31 posted on 10/14/2003 5:25:21 AM PDT by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: Libertina
"Heard she was given immunity :("

Bad news, indeed.

32 posted on 10/14/2003 3:19:42 PM PDT by davisfh
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