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US conservatives meeting in J'lem advise Israel to end negotiations with the Palestinian Authority
Haaretz News Ticker ^ | 10/13/2003 | AP

Posted on 10/13/2003 2:12:03 PM PDT by yonif

U.S. conservatives meeting in Jerusalem advise Israel to end negotiations with the Palestinian Authority


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: conservatives; israel; jerusalem; ploterrorregime
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1 posted on 10/13/2003 2:12:16 PM PDT by yonif
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To: SJackson; Yehuda; Nachum; Paved Paradise; Mr. Mojo; Thinkin' Gal; Bobby777; adam_az; Alouette; ...
Ping.
2 posted on 10/13/2003 2:12:27 PM PDT by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: yonif
pucker?
3 posted on 10/13/2003 2:12:52 PM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: yonif
Which Ones ?
4 posted on 10/13/2003 2:16:12 PM PDT by cmsgop (If you Sprinkle When You Tinkle,...Be a Sweetie and Wipe the Seatie......Priceless!!!!!!!!I saqw)
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5 posted on 10/13/2003 2:17:26 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: cmsgop
I have not been able to find a complete story yet. I will post it when I will. This is simply a blob from AP.
6 posted on 10/13/2003 2:27:50 PM PDT by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: yonif
If Jews were normal they'd listen to the Conservatives. All those years of persecution did something to many Jewish brains.
7 posted on 10/13/2003 3:35:23 PM PDT by UbIwerks
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To: cmsgop; SJackson; yonif; rdb3; Simcha7; American in Israel; spectacularbid2003; Binyamin; ...
"Which Ones?"

That would be these ones (see Jerusalem Prayer Team email attached below). Note, Mike Evans is the author of "After Iraq," which I am reading now. They are all "in country" right now. I'm sure Cal Thomas is giving them an ear full, bless his little pro-Israel gentile heart.  !



If you'd like to be on or off this
Christian Supporters of Israel ping list,
please FR mail me. ~
  -  -
Letter To The President In Support Of Israel ~
'Final Solution,' Phase 2 ~


__Original Email___________________________________________________

Greetings from the City of David - Jerusalem! I am here as your representative to participate in the first Jerusalem World Summit.

I'd like to be able to show our support of Zion. Please sign the Defender of Zion Petition today.

If you have already signed, please forward this message to your friends and family!

The various delegates from nations worldwide will hear from Vice Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, Minister of Finance Benjamin Netanyahu, Minister of Tourism Benny Elon, Ambassador Alan Keyes, syndicated columnist and Fox host, Cal Thomas, as well as military strategists, professors from top universities, and political analysts.

A few hours ago, I addressed the delegates as the keynote speaker for the opening evening session. I spoke to this notable assembly on the subject: Perpetuating Moral Values in Difficult Times. In my comments to this group, I said:

The secularization of both America and Israel has opened a Pandora's box. The spirit of the age, moral relativism, has dumbed-down two nations. The theory is, since there is no wrong then those who do wrong must be the victims. This is not a struggle between good and evil, just a misunderstanding that we can negotiate away with money and education.

Instead of fearing God, both nations have swallowed the poison of the snake who declared, "You shall be as gods."

These new gods refuse to recognize higher moral order. Nor do they believe in Jehovah God. There are no moral absolutes. Life begins and ends here.

No matter how despicable the terrorist attack is the secularists continue their Pied Piper rhetoric as the cycle of violence continues: "Both parties must show restraint."

Terrorism is a greater ideological danger than Nazism or Communism. In the minds of the terrorists, the mission is a divine one.

I confronted Hanan Ashwari at the Madrid Peace Conference and told her that the if Arabs controlled Judea and Samaria and still attacked Jews with wars and terrorism, how could she say that returning land would bring peace now, when it didn't then. I asked if she claimed to be a Christian, how she could justify asking that the Jewish town of Bethlehem be placed under Islamic rule of law. She went into a frenzy and said, "You will not distort our reality. I am a descendant of the first Christian in the world. Bethlehem was a Palestinian town where the first Palestinian Christian, Jesus Christ, was born."

Hanan Ashwari's perception is reality, but definitely not the truth. In her mind, Arafat is the George Washington of the Palestinian people.

If Arafat is not labeled the murderer that he is, then the war on terror cannot be won.

I have devoted my life to standing with this nation [Israel] and the Jewish people. As a Christian, and more appropriately, as a Christian Zionist, I am firmly convinced that Israel is the last firewall between Islamic fundamentalism and the West. If that firewall continues to be weakened, asymmetrical terrorism (the H-bomb), a home-grown Islamic fundamentalist invention imported and exported by the godfather of world terrorism, Yasser Arafat, will become the weapon of choice on the streets of America.

Please sign the Defender of Zion Petition today!

We must let President Bush know that America cannot afford to force Israel into a deadly dance with the devil. If we do, America will become an unwilling partner caught up in the whirl of an unending and deadly party.

Please forward this to your email list, and ask everyone who has not signed to sign today. We currently have more than 20,000 signatures. I would like to be able to tell the Prime Minister that we have 30,000 signatures on the petition.

For Zion's sake,

Michael D. Evans

L'shanah Tovah Tikateva..."

"For a good year - May you be written and sealed in the Book of Life."

Jerusalem Prayer Team
PO Box 910
Euless, TX 76039
817-268-1228

Dr. Tim LaHaye, Mrs. Anne Graham Lotz, Dr. Pat Robertson, Dr. Paul Crouch, Dr. Adrian Rogers, Mr. Pat Boone, Dr. John Hagee, Dr. Jerry Falwell, Mr. Bill McCartney, Ms. Kay Arthur, Rev. Tommy Tenney, Dr. A.R. Bernard, Dr. Stephen Olford, and Dr. Jay Sekulow are just a few of the more then 300 Christian Leaders who are part of the Jerusalem Prayer Team.

The mission of the Jerusalem Prayer Team: To guard, defend and protect the Jewish people and Eretz Yisrael until Israel is secure, and until the Redeemer comes to Zion.

(c)Copyright 2003, The Jerusalem Prayer Team. All Rights Reserved

8 posted on 10/13/2003 4:07:31 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: Salem
Oh, the email came in today, 13 October, 2003.
9 posted on 10/13/2003 4:09:35 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: yonif
This must be what this AFP article is about that I saw earlier today. Didn't post it because I didn't like the "tone".


US, Israeli right-wingers to hold summit on Middle East Monday, 13-Oct-2003 9:15AM Story from AFP
Copyright 2003 by Agence France-Presse (via ClariNet)




JERUSALEM, Oct 13 (AFP) - Leading right-wing figures from the United States and Israel are to hold a conference in Jerusalem Tuesday on key issues in the Middle East, a statement said.

Some 100 politicians and academics are expected to gather in Jerusalem for the summit, which is hosted by the Christian Coalition for Israel.

Among the most senior US guests are Under-Secretary of Defence Richard Perle, a leading neo-conservative hardliner in the Pentagon, and Daniel Pipes, President George W. Bush's adviser on the Middle East.

Several members of the Israeli government are also expected to attend the "Jerusalem Summit", including minister without portfolio Uzi Landau and Tourism Minister Benny Elon, from the far-right National Union party.

Issues ranging from the situation in post-war Iraq to peace between Israel and the Palestinians will be discussed, the statement said.

The gathering coincides with another one organised by the International Christian Embassy, which saw Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon address a 3, 000-strong crowd in Jerusalem on Sunday to mark the Jewish holiday of Sukkot.

Besides the large Jewish lobby in the US Congress, Israel benefits from the unconditional support of the Christian evangelicals, an influential movement within Bush's Republican party.

jmm/mb

Mideast-US-Israel
10 posted on 10/13/2003 4:17:33 PM PDT by Brian S (" In the United States, armed masses represent the foundation of political order.")
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If you'd like to be on or off this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
11 posted on 10/13/2003 4:39:00 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: yonif
End it. NOW!
12 posted on 10/13/2003 4:41:14 PM PDT by tet68 (multiculturalism is an ideological academic fantasy maintained in obvious bad faith. M. Thompson)
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To: Salem
Thank You Very Much!
13 posted on 10/13/2003 5:22:57 PM PDT by cmsgop (If you Sprinkle When You Tinkle,...Be a Sweetie and Wipe the Seatie......Priceless!!!!!!!!I saqw)
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To: Salem
I confronted Hanan Ashwari at the Madrid Peace Conference and told her that the if Arabs controlled Judea and Samaria and still attacked Jews with wars and terrorism, how could she say that returning land would bring peace now, when it didn't then. I asked if she claimed to be a Christian, how she could justify asking that the Jewish town of Bethlehem be placed under Islamic rule of law. She went into a frenzy and said, "You will not distort our reality. I am a descendant of the first Christian in the world. Bethlehem was a Palestinian town where the first Palestinian Christian, Jesus Christ, was born."

I watched her interview on CSPAN - she is NOT a Christian - she is a lier and her father is the father of all liers - SATAN!

14 posted on 10/13/2003 5:26:05 PM PDT by TrueBeliever9
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To: Brian S
"...and Daniel Pipes, President George W. Bush's adviser on the Middle East."

Good to see Daniel in the trenches doing what he does best!  !

15 posted on 10/13/2003 5:35:12 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: TrueBeliever9
"I watched her interview on CSPAN - she is NOT a Christian..."

I think we discussed this in length on another thread a few weeks back. Most of these people identifying themselves as "Christians" in that area simply are not, in truth, but simply modeling their tribal identities. But then as it is written:

"21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."
(Matthew 7:21-23)

16 posted on 10/13/2003 5:42:00 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: Brian S
Thanks.
17 posted on 10/13/2003 5:52:41 PM PDT by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: tet68
The US should stop sending them aid as well.
18 posted on 10/13/2003 5:53:09 PM PDT by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: TrueBeliever9
She went into a frenzy and said, "You will not distort our reality. I am a descendant of the first Christian in the world. Bethlehem was a Palestinian town where the first Palestinian Christian, Jesus Christ, was born." A) Jesus was a Jew. B) Many if not most Arabs and Egyptians from that region, that was once Byzantine/Roman Christian lands before 640AD, are descended from Christians. That doesnt stop them from being Jihadists.
19 posted on 10/13/2003 6:17:07 PM PDT by WOSG
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To: Salem; yonif; All
I certainly all of our good friends stay off of Israeli roads.. The roads seem to be killing more innocent people than the terrorists . . .
w w w . h a a r e t z d a i l y . c o m

Last update - 23:35 13/10/2003

Road fatalities up 50 percent this month over September 2002

By Anat Georgi, Haaretz Correspondent

Road accident deaths rose by 50 percent last month, compared to September 2002. In September 2003, 54 people were killed in road accidents; the figure for September 2002 was 36.

Yet police statistics show that fewer people have died in road accidents during the first months of 2003 (through Monday), compared to the same period in 2002. The total so far for 2003 is 385 road fatalities, compared to 436 for the comparable period last year.

Officers from the police traffic department say last month's rise should not be seen as a trend. They added that a majority of the fatal accidents occurred between 1 A.M. and 5 A.M.; there was also an increase in the number of pedestrians killed in traffic accidents last month.

Nonetheless, police traffic officers have decided to increase the presence of patrol cars on highways and at problematic junctions. Police intend to step up patrols on 10 main roads where the majority of fatal accidents occurred last month. These roads include: Route 25 in the Be'er Sheva area, the Ayalon beltway, the main coastal highway, stretches of Route 70 leading up to Nahariya, and Route 444.

The police have formed a special, 20-car patrol unit whose vehicles will monitor traffic on these roads. The patrol cars will be manned by traffic department officers, including personnel who have worked at desk jobs up until now. A spokesman for the police traffic department explained Monday that, each day, officers evaluate work done by this unit, and decide on how to dispatch the vehicles the following day. The unit's activity started last week and will continue through next month, said the spokesman.

As part of the campaign to reduce road accidents, the Ma'atz public works authority has started to chart roads that have had a high number of traffic accidents. The work is based on data compiled by the Central Bureau of Statistics that relates to road accidents between 1999-2001. Information gathered in this project will be used as the basis for the authority's recommendations for road repair work.

Public Works Authority officials say the project's goal is to raise safety standards on major roads to levels found in developed countries. The information compiled thus far relates to hundreds of spots on roads around the country.


20 posted on 10/13/2003 6:29:32 PM PDT by Phil V.
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