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To: Between the Lines
"When we did separate from Great Britain in 1776, more than half the states abolished slavery --New York, Vermont, Connecticut, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Pennsylvania. Not every state did, you had four in the south that kept it. But you have a huge majority of Founding Fathers that were anti-slavery. Never owned slaves."

I don't understand this quote. Did Barton mean the importation of slaves? There were certainly more than four states in the South that allowed slavery after 1776, and in the year that Washington died, 1799, there were slaves in New York.

9 posted on 10/13/2003 11:41:03 AM PDT by HenryLeeII
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To: HenryLeeII
"""""When we did separate from Great Britain in 1776, more than half the states abolished slavery --New York, Vermont, Connecticut, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Pennsylvania. Not every state did, you had four in the south that kept it. But you have a huge majority of Founding Fathers that were anti-slavery. Never owned slaves."

I don't understand this quote. Did Barton mean the importation of slaves? There were certainly more than four states in the South that allowed slavery after 1776, and in the year that Washington died, 1799, there were slaves in New York. """""

Barton is talking about the make-up of the U. States in 1776, there were only 4 "southern states" (Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina and Georgia) and in reality there were only 3 (in 1780's America, Virginia was not considered a "southern" state, it was part of the mid-Atlantic region along with New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware and Maryland).

In the east today, we use the Mason-Dixon line(Pennsylvania/Maryland boundary) as our arbitrary boundary between North and South. Historically however, Virginia and Maryland were not considered "southern states" but "mid Atlantic states". Up until the Civil War, economically and socially, Maryland & Virginia were more tied to their northern neighbors (Pennsylvania, New Jersey & Delaware) than they were to the Carolina's. For a good part of the early 19th century, one of the colleges of choice for young Southern gentlemen was Princeton University in Princeton, New Jersey.

As for slavery in New York, I believe they adopted the same system that eventually was used in New Jersey. Slavery was abolished by law but existing slaves could be kept for a certain number of years after abolition according to certain legal qualifications.
15 posted on 10/13/2003 12:34:09 PM PDT by XRdsRev
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