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Fifth District race getting interesting [NC - plus statewide races]
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| 8/21/03
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Posted on 08/21/2003 7:48:05 PM PDT by JohnnyZ
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posted on
08/21/2003 7:48:06 PM PDT
by
JohnnyZ
To: Constitution Day; mykdsmom; GiveEmDubya; GraniteStateConservative; AuH2ORepublican; Impy; mhking
NC Ping request -- I'm posting this on Campaign Central and I figure a lot of folks will miss it but I want to get more election stuff over here.
The 5th district Broyhill development mentioned above has potentially very significant ramifications for Vernon Robinson's candidacy, which many of my pingees are interested in. We are now guaranteed a runoff (no candidate with 40%) but how much of a base Foxx and Broyhill share is beyond my knowledge of the candidates and district. Both are threats to reach the runoff, but if they split support they could ensure Vernon makes the runoff. Prognostication is pretty much guesswork at this point.
About the statewide races, we're starting to put together a good slate of candidates:
Governor: Ballantine or Cobey, most likely
Lt Guv: Bill Boyd, conservative former legislator, cancer survivor and head (?) of the state Christian Coalition but Harold Brubaker (RINO ringleader) ally plus probably state rep Gregg Thompson.
Treasurer: Greensboro lawyer and business owner Ed Meyer, bidding to become the first (?) statewide elected Hispanic (though he's not pushing that angle) -- he's a pro-life Catholic Reagan conservative, and he'd probably be the first statewide elected one of those too!
Auditor: Les Merritt is running again after losing by 0.5% in 2000
Agriculture: Steve Troxler is running again after losing by a similar tiny margin in 2000
Superintendent of Public Instruction: Michael Barrick is running again after losing by a small margin to an incumbent -- the seat is now open.
Attorney General: See article above
Secretary of State: no takers so far?
Labor: incumbent Republican Cherie Berry
Insurance: no takers so far
Barrick, Merritt, and Troxler are all strong candidates who were hurt by (Vinroot) a weak top (Vinroot) of the ticket (Vinroot) in 2000, as the Dems almost swept the statewide races.
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posted on
08/21/2003 8:13:20 PM PDT
by
JohnnyZ
(I don't know but I been told - Eskimo ***** is mighty cold - Tastes good - Mm good)
Those percentages were a little off:
2000 Election
Ward (D) 53
Barrick (R) 47
Meg Scott Phipps (D) 51 (now on her way to prison)
Troxler (R) 49
Campbell (D) 51
Merritt (R) 49
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posted on
08/21/2003 8:20:34 PM PDT
by
JohnnyZ
(I don't know but I been told - Eskimo ***** is mighty cold - Tastes good - Mm good)
To: *Old_North_State; **North_Carolina; Constitution Day; 100%FEDUP; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; ...
NC Ping
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posted on
08/21/2003 8:21:44 PM PDT
by
mykdsmom
To: JohnnyZ
Who did Vinroot beat in the primary? Anyone who could have beaten Easley?
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posted on
08/21/2003 10:58:32 PM PDT
by
Impy
(Don't you fall into the trap, democrats are full of crap.)
To: Impy
Who did Vinroot beat in the primary? Leo Daughtry was his closest competitor; I don't know how he would have fared statewide. Maybe it's a little unfair to blame it all on Vinroot, but the state GOP ticket got wiped out while Bush was winning the state by 13 points, and Vinroot trailed most of the GOP ticket. GOP turnout could have been much better, among other things. Point is, Merritt and Troxler would have won in slightly more favorable circumstances.
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posted on
08/21/2003 11:22:31 PM PDT
by
JohnnyZ
(I don't know but I been told - Eskimo ***** is mighty cold - Tastes good - Mm good)
To: No Dems 2004; fieldmarshaldj
Don't be a stranger to a Congress & state office thread :)
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posted on
08/22/2003 8:52:30 AM PDT
by
JohnnyZ
(I don't know but I been told - Eskimo ***** is mighty cold - Tastes good - Mm good)
To: JohnnyZ
Many political observers in the Triad think that the entrance of Ed Broyhill into the congressional race hurts state Sen. Virginia Foxx the most.We can only hope. Actually Virginia didn't have much of a chance anyway. She can't really raise any money and once her true beliefs are made public, she'll have a hard time even getting invites on the rubber-chicken circuit. There is a whole contingent in Stokes and Surry counties ready to make sure everyone knows Virginia's true stripes.
I would guess the 5th district race would now come down to Snyder, Robinson, and Broyhill. Snyder is going to have a tough time beating back reminders of his "carpetbagger" campaing tactics against Dole when it is made widely known that he doesn't even live in the district. I like him, but the rumblings on the street are that he has a tough row to hoe.
I know almost nothing about Broyhill. Can anyone fill me in?
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posted on
08/22/2003 8:18:01 PM PDT
by
NCSteve
To: JohnnyZ
Thank you for keeping us informed on these important Congressional races. Your posts are always very interesting and informative.
To: AuH2ORepublican; Badray; BlackElk; Bonaparte; Canticle_of_Deborah; EternalVigilance; ...
NC discussion *ping*
It's just amazing that the 'Rats caught all the breaks for NC statewide offices in '00. Surely we'll capture a few, most notably the Scott-Phipps office, this time around.
I'm hoping we'll beat Easley, but I don't think we're seeing the critical mass yet to take him down. JZ, I know you're more a Cobey man and I'm a Ballantine supporter (fortunately, this ain't an Ah-nold vs. McClintock choice, since both Pat & Bill are good guys).
I'm hoping Mr. Robinson gets the nomination outright, though with such a crowded field, is probably too slim a chance, but you never know...
I see you mentioned the named Harold Brubaker, the former Speaker of the House from '95-'99. I didn't realize he was a RINO, that's too bad... :-(
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posted on
08/23/2003 3:13:55 AM PDT
by
fieldmarshaldj
(~RINOs can eat my shorts - and you don't want to know when I washed 'em last~)
To: JohnnyZ
I don't know what about Vinroot brings such bad luck. He didn't strike me as a bad sort - competent and fairly capable, but just didn't catch fire with the voters. He definitely needs to stay out of the Governor's race, alas if the Ballantine-Cobey primary turns ugly, Vinroot could end up with it by default, and we can definitely say hello to an Easley 2nd term. :-(
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posted on
08/23/2003 3:16:45 AM PDT
by
fieldmarshaldj
(~RINOs can eat my shorts - and you don't want to know when I washed 'em last~)
To: NCSteve; JohnnyZ
"I know almost nothing about Broyhill. Can anyone fill me in?"
Broyhill is running solely on the name. He is, of course, the son of former Congressman and Senator Jim Broyhill, and has $$. This isn't the same district his dad represented, which was in the adjacent (old) 10th to the west. Besides his dad, he claims to have Jesse Helms serving as an honorary co-chair, and seems to bridge the gap between the old establishment Mountain Republicans embodied by his family name, and the Helms Republicans. He wouldn't be such a bad selection on that, but we need Vernon Robinson in the House. Broyhill ought to return to the 10th and wait for Cass Ballenger's retirement (and at 77, I can't see him remaining much longer -- he succeeded Jim Broyhill when he was appointed to the Senate), I think that's a better bet.
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posted on
08/23/2003 3:31:27 AM PDT
by
fieldmarshaldj
(~RINOs can eat my shorts - and you don't want to know when I washed 'em last~)
To: fieldmarshaldj
Harold Brubaker, the former Speaker of the House from '95-'99. I didn't realize he was a RINO That's the really strange thing. Ideologically I think he's fairly conservative. But he's been the force behind the Richard Morgan "let's give control of the NC House to the Democrats and redistrict conservative Republicans out of office" sleazemobile. I talked with Bill Boyd a bit and he seems to be an honest and decent guy, but he's very close to Brubaker and I'm afraid he'll do whatever HB says as LT Gov.
Surely we'll capture a few, most notably the Scott-Phipps office, this time around.
Hopefully, but I wouldn't count on it at this point. Brit Cobb was appointed after Meg Scott Phipps resigned, promising to fix the dept and not to run for reelection. He's won a lot of praise for -- well, mostly for not being a corrupt ***** like MSP -- and now he's going to run for reelection.
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posted on
08/23/2003 10:16:08 AM PDT
by
JohnnyZ
(I don't know but I been told - Eskimo ***** is mighty cold - Tastes good - Mm good)
To: JohnnyZ
Crazy about Brubaker. Perhaps we can use Cobb's breaking his word against him in a campaign next year, and 'Rat corruption.
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posted on
08/23/2003 11:16:17 AM PDT
by
fieldmarshaldj
(~RINOs can eat my shorts - and you don't want to know when I washed 'em last~)
To: fieldmarshaldj
but we need Vernon Robinson in the House.You said that right. Vernon is my pick.
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posted on
08/23/2003 1:49:05 PM PDT
by
NCSteve
To: JohnnyZ
I think it is pretty interesting that Nathan Tabor, a recently ex smoker and excessive drinker is now going for the "Christian Coalition" rap. If one is to delve into his past personal life you would see he is all but the perfect candidate for congress.....
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posted on
09/19/2003 10:57:33 AM PDT
by
music1
(Tabor, really a christian????)
To: music1
heard a rumor that Tabor is getting married very soon!
To: fieldmarshaldj
is it true that Helvey has all of his possesions in his wife's name? Or that he has Scott Livengood as his Finance Chair (who was also Erskine Bowles Finance Chair)?
Interesting!!
To: blue-chip
Hey - if you want the proof it is at www.jayhelvey.com. Momma owns it all...
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posted on
10/08/2003 6:03:44 PM PDT
by
jcwhat
To: music1
Did you really ask if Tabor was really a Christian? Jeez, how do you sleep at night?
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posted on
10/08/2003 6:06:25 PM PDT
by
jcwhat
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