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There Is No GOP Civil War: The supposed schism in the Republican Party is a media fantasy, Trump Has Already Won.
The Federalist ^ | 02/22/2021 | David Marcus

Posted on 02/22/2021 11:50:19 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

Thee should be, and all RINOs must be expelled.


41 posted on 02/22/2021 1:24:48 PM PST by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

We didn’t have a fighter like Trump leading us for the past 50 years. We also have never had this level of resentment against the GOP establishment. It will send a strong message if we stop holding our noses for the RINOs but do everything we can to get the true conservatives elected. I was only commenting on the third party fans online and those who don’t want to support any Republicans no matter how good. I was not saying we need to keep voting for RINOs. But the claim that the whole GOP is RINO is absolutely ridiculous. My own governor Ron DeSantis is about as good an elected official anyone of us could ever hope to get.

It may look like we haven’t made much progress because the leftist media loves fixating on the traitors in the party, but Trump first won the nomination with only a minority of the Republican voters’ support. By the end of the 2016 campaign he won over the vast majority of the party. Since then he’s solidified that support among the Republican voters. He also won 12 million more voters to his side and more minorities than any Republican since 1960. Nobody sane disputes his control over the party. Cocaine Mitch is just spitting into the wind with his whining.

Trump’s betrayal by some RINOs has shed light on the RINO problem like never before. It takes years for people to work their way up to positions of power within a party. It’s no surprise that we still have a lot of work to do with leading Republicans. However, many have already self-deported from the party, some even campaigning on behalf of Biden. Others simply decided not to run again in ’20 and ’22. A few we were able to successfully primary even before the great betrayal.

Some people prefer to focus on the traitors in our midst and that’s understandable, but there is no way in 2016 around 130 Congressmen would have signed on to the TX election lawsuit and nobody would have contested the electoral results in the Congress if the theft had happened then. A lot of the best fighters on our side are young. They are the future of the party unless we just give up and let the Communists take over the country without opposition and the globalist elites reassert their power over both parties.

We need to realize how much power we can get in the party by taking over or influencing the little local positions and working our way up. We also need to start now in making sure our people understanding how incredibly important primaries are. Too many of our people skipped out on the primaries in the past and then just complained later about our RINO candidates. That needs to change. We need to treat the primaries at least as seriously as the general election. And we need to be lobbying state legislators everywhere to strengthen their state’s election integrity laws. Trump can be instrumental in promoting these things.

A third party is a nice idea, but even if Trump’s party got 70% of the old GOP vote and the GOP only kept 30%, it would still mean the Dems win every contested election just as they are going full Communist. Why do that to the Republicans who are actually fighting the good fight? Trump already learned this lesson in 2000 when he prepared to run on the Reform Party ticket before he realized that was a sure way to lose. If he changes his mind and goes through with the third party, then I’ll be there with him, but I think Trump wants to win and I don’t think he’ll be heading in that direction while he still dominates the GOP base.


42 posted on 02/22/2021 1:30:48 PM PST by FenwickBabbitt
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To: FenwickBabbitt
A third party is a nice idea, but even if Trump’s party got 70% of the old GOP vote and the GOP only kept 30%, it would still mean the Dems win every contested election just as they are going full Communist.

No. A new party would get huge support from independent and blue collar Democrats so on the whole a much bigger base that the current GOP.

43 posted on 02/22/2021 1:33:53 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

You go girl.


44 posted on 02/22/2021 1:34:28 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: SeekAndFind
I am, as are many, receiving GOP texts and emails begging for cash and throwing Trump's name around as in: "Trump needs to know you have his back."

It seems to me Trump would have stepped on this if he was going away from the GOP.

McConnell must be real happy about this.../s (if necessary)

45 posted on 02/22/2021 1:35:11 PM PST by PerConPat (A politician is an animal which can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground...Mencken)
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To: central_va

I don’t know why Trump would get significantly more independent and blue collar Dem votes than he already got in the election running as a Republican. Do you think a lot of these people refused to vote for Trump just because he had an R after his name and would start supporting Trump and pro-Trump candidates if only they didn’t have an association with Republicans? Why should we believe people still in the Dem party, as radical and left-wing as it’s become, would join with conservatives en masse if they haven’t already?


46 posted on 02/22/2021 1:44:27 PM PST by FenwickBabbitt
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To: antidemoncrat
Let’s look at what each side is offering and compare. The Trump wing, otherwise known as 90 percent of the GOP, is offering a laser focus on American jobs, a firm hand at the border, and a foreign policy that doesn’t kowtow to China and avoids new wars. Culturally it s a party willing to say that men cannot become women and that America is not a racist country.

Demcorats are good at being big fish in itty bitty little ponds. It's why they're powerful in DC. It's why they teach their 'organizers' how to make a few people loo like a larger group...

It's why white liberal 'elite' thugs were flying antifa around the country to gin up violence. Not enough home grown progressives to fill a stadium... or an ingratiation.

Masters of illusion and deception... their real support an inch deep. Sound and fury signifying nothing as that MSNBC dingbat would say William Faulkner said... (which Shakespeare really did say first)..

47 posted on 02/22/2021 1:48:34 PM PST by GOPJ (The 'right' to be politically offensive is called free speech It's protected in 1st world countries.)
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To: FenwickBabbitt
Do you think a lot of these people refused to vote for Trump just because he had an R after his name and would start supporting Trump and pro-Trump candidates if only they didn’t have an association with Republicans?

Yes I do, A new party would attract anti globalists and blue collar types that now stay home. After all of the old GOP baggage is dropped an exciting new party will attract those on the sidelines.

48 posted on 02/22/2021 1:51:05 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va

Well if a third party ever happens, I certainly hope you’re right. It doesn’t look like that’s what Trump has in mind, though, so I hope Trump supporters can come together behind him to support the conservative/populist/MAGA candidates in the GOP for as long as that’s all we’ve got. This would be the worst time to give up on the fight as the Dems become more authoritarian and radicalized.


49 posted on 02/22/2021 2:09:30 PM PST by FenwickBabbitt
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To: FenwickBabbitt

This is the best time to form a new party. Trump is a once in a century powerhouse. The GOP was given everything in 2016 and they got TDS and threw it all away. If any party needed to die it is the GO fukking P.


50 posted on 02/22/2021 2:15:22 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: FenwickBabbitt

The problem with your analysis is that the GOPee failed to represent their putative constituency in every instance, at every levelm during the catastrophe of the 2020 election. Every one of the disputed states had majority GOPee legislatures but none of them did a damn thing to Stop The Steal, not a single one. The three Trump-sponsored GOPee USSC judges confirmed were put there to Stop The Steal but all three refused to even hear any case put before them, and they even did the same thing this very day. The majority of the GOPee Senators and Congressmen voted to accept the fraud rather than Stop The Steal, including Trump’s VP, Pence, thereby sticking a shiv in Trump’s back and taking the biggest schitt in political history on every one of their own voters. What in God’s name does it take for the dimwits of the G.OPee to finally wake up and dump the execrable GOPee? GOPee Delenda Est!


51 posted on 02/22/2021 2:23:09 PM PST by DrPretorius
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To: DrPretorius

And all of that horrible recent history of GOPee fecklessness, gutlessness, and criminality doesn’t even touch on the failures of the GOPee to support the most popular president their own party had since Teddy Roosevelt. Not to mention a more than fifty year failure to advance a conservative agenda in any way, shape, or form. C’mon man! GOPee Delenda Est!


52 posted on 02/22/2021 2:29:28 PM PST by DrPretorius
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To: antidemoncrat

Exactly... State legislators not the federal government and yes some state AGs were well outside the law and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law possible but being a realist I’m well aware that anyone in government is above the law.


53 posted on 02/22/2021 2:54:47 PM PST by maddog55 ((the only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!))
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To: central_va

Happy talk and sunshine pumping doesn’t help at all. Lizard Cheeny sits in Congress with the backing of 2/3 of the GOP caucus while President Trump sits on a beach in Florida. Calling that winning is disingenuous at best and deliberate gaslighting to the benefit of the Uniparty at worst.


54 posted on 02/22/2021 2:58:26 PM PST by lodi90
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To: ModelBreaker

If Trump can establish a large and regular money raising mechanism that persists, that will change the party. Barring that, there is an enormous fight coming. The Lincoln Project type R’s will not give up as long as they have massive amounts of money to spend.


The RINOs and big donor class of the GOP will continue supporting progressive Democrats regardless of what conservatives do. They genuinely prefer Democrats and the progressive agenda to us and MAGA. That will never change. The GOP is a malignant force in American politics and needs to die. The sooner the better.


55 posted on 02/22/2021 3:02:57 PM PST by lodi90
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To: FenwickBabbitt

Get back to me in 2022 and let me know how many of these BASTARDS you were able to primary I WILL BE WAITING!!!


56 posted on 02/22/2021 3:25:38 PM PST by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: bhive
"I voted for Trump twice. The election was stolen in the dead of night. However Trump and all his worshipers can kiss my ass."

Right back at you! I find those that hate Trump and those that worship Trump have the same disease with a different presentation. What is your major malfunction?

I don't worship Trump I just hate how deceitful the GOP has been and they have to pay or we will never have a party that represents us.

57 posted on 02/22/2021 3:32:04 PM PST by wildcard_redneck ( COVID lockdowns are the Establishment's attack on the middle class and our Republic)
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To: maddog55

States make voting requirements not the federal government.

Not here in PA. Judges write and uphold the laws.


58 posted on 02/22/2021 3:32:45 PM PST by krizzy (Never underestimate Joes ability to F things up. )
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To: FenwickBabbitt; All

“we just have to clean out the leadership”

Hell will freeze over before that can be achieved.

We have people here that have voted over 50 plus years, STILL trying to get rid of the GOPe leadership, your argument if it is hinged on the above is by all definition and history a failure.

Do you truly believe that PDJT did not try to assert his power within the last 5 years, but now he will and will clean out the swamp that just Actively colluded with the dems and swamp to destroy the 2020 election, our Constitution, and our National safety?

Those who can see the big picture as not stupid, We know how to win, and it is NOT suckling up to the wild boar pig teat of the GOP/UNiparty and getting gored again by their treason.

Blessings


59 posted on 02/22/2021 3:48:09 PM PST by wombatsrule (Gut them from inside, become https://theprecinctproject.wordpress.com/ - then new party swap ;-)))
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To: Usawatcher

Wake the hell up! There will never be another legitimate election ever again. The USSC gaurantees it. The criminal electoral fraud in the Marxocrat-controlled states ensures it. Running elections does not matter anymore. It’s all a sad farce. The USA as we once knew it is so over.

The Constitution is a dead letter. The Bill of Rights is no longer in force. The Rule of Law has ended. There is no way forward from a catastrophe of this magnitude except state by state nullification, non-compliance, and secession from the illegitimate tyrannical junta that has gripped this country. Normalcy bias prevents most people from recognizing that this country can no longer exist in its current configuration. We will be separated like the Soviet Union was in the 1990s. This cannot be stopped.


60 posted on 02/22/2021 3:55:43 PM PST by DrPretorius
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