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To: hapnHal

Punctuation matters. Generally there is a comma. “forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us.” Or, “Forgive us, while at the same time we forgive others.” Without the comma it becomes “Forgive us in the same manner as we forgive others.” My wife jokes that she really emphasizes the comma. If you are like me, my forgiveness of others is too often half hearted and begrudging.

The student group for English majors in the local college were selling t-shirts. “Commas can kill. ‘Let’s eat Grandma’ ‘Let’s eat, Grandma’”


6 posted on 10/07/2018 7:53:19 PM PDT by lnbjohnson
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To: lnbjohnson
In the Latin:

Et dimitte nobis debita nostra, sicut et nos dimittimus debitoribus nostris.

In the Greek, the key terms are ta opheilemata (with an eta after the lambda) and tois opheiletais.

10 posted on 10/07/2018 8:59:58 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: lnbjohnson

Comma missing, yes and no? I was trying not to make a mistake. So, I copied the forgiveness clause from a Catholic web site and checked another Catholic site and again guess what? NO COMMA? Then I checked other sites (Wikipedia) and the comma is included. I think you wife is correct.


11 posted on 10/07/2018 9:04:17 PM PDT by hapnHal
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To: lnbjohnson

I learned the Lords Prayer slightly differently: “...forgive us our sins as we forgive ....”

Of course the world says we don’t sin, God says we are all sinners.


14 posted on 10/09/2018 6:48:23 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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