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To: nathanbedford
I called you petty because you have become so.

When you won't recognize the simple truth that Reagan was further behind than Trump was at this point in polling for the 1980 election, you're being petty.

When you gave up the conservative principle of accepting a true statement, you became petty.

And now you try your condescension side.

Looks good on you.

201 posted on 04/01/2016 10:54:27 AM PDT by Lakeshark (One time Cruz supporter who now prefers Trump. Yes, there are good reasons.)
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To: Lakeshark
The new Marquette poll finds his favorability rating at 22 percent, compared with a 70 percent unfavorability rating. That is … bad? No. It would be an insult to the quiet dignity of the word “bad” to call that spread bad. A 22–70 favorability spread is in the mid- to high “holy shits.” Sure, that number includes all voters, not just Republicans. But if Trump has a 22 percent overall favorability and 30 percent of the Republican vote, that means there aren’t a whole lot of Republican primary voters out there for him to sway. (My post #33 quoting article)

A man who once had principles of intellectual honesty ought to know that Reagan's numbers against Carter in the polls of Spring 1980 were even worse than Trump's are now. (Your post #37)

A man who once had principles of intellectual honesty ought to tell us what those "numbers" meant-were they Reagan's negatives or were they simply a poll of preferences?

Big, big difference (my posts #40)

Either your memory really is bad, or possibly the idea of not remembering how Reagan's negatives as an "extremist" a "warmonger" and a "stupid B grade actor" weren't the reason for his bad polling is a thing you want to avoid on this forum. (Your post #41)

You opened the subject of comparing Reagan's numbers to Trump's. Rather than an attempt to avoid the subject, I said it should be further explored and I asked about the nature of the numbers. (My post #43)

Your point is that in 1980 Ronald Reagan came from far behind and won that election and therefore Donald Trump will do the same in 2016. In order for your argument to be rational much less persuasive you have to contend that the election of 2016 is identical to the context of the election held thirty-six years ago. In other words you must show that you are arguing apples to apples and not apples to oranges.

I have asked you to support your argument and to show us that the negatives of Ronald Reagan in 1980 are the equivalent of the negatives of Trump in 2016.I have asked for data, you reply with animus and condescension. (My post #165)

When you won't recognize the simple truth that Reagan was further behind than Trump was at this point in polling for the 1980 election, you're being petty. (Your post #201)

At no time have I disputed your assertion that the polling numbers for Reagan were worse than they are today for Trump. That is because I am unaware of the data, I simply want to know how the data are defined, polling numbers or approval numbers?.

I have asked you time and again to confirm that the numbers for Reagan in 1980 are the equivalent with the numbers for Trump in 2016, specifically, are we comparing preference numbers to approval numbers? Time and again you have declined to respond.

I have asked you to consider the article I supplied to you specifically addressing your point. No response.

You can call me " petty" or you can acknowledge that we have an honest dispute about the meaning of the data, that I have been asking for data, and you have declined to provide data to support your proposition.


203 posted on 04/01/2016 5:11:19 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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