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God, Conservatism, and Donald Trump
Trevor Grant Thomas.com ^ | 2/22/2016 | Trevor Grant Thomas

Posted on 02/22/2016 6:46:12 AM PST by DWW1990

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To: wintertime

In that regard, Cruz relies on the law and an understanding of American history. I mean real American history written by respected scholars, not comic book versions someone finds on YouTube or some obscure websites.


21 posted on 02/22/2016 7:21:36 AM PST by gusty
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To: Fai Mao

I posted a reply to #1 on #2

The answer to that question is
2.I have no idea if Donald Trump has committed adultery. He is not someone I hang with. He seems to have admitted to this being the case but I don’t personally know.


22 posted on 02/22/2016 7:24:55 AM PST by Fai Mao (Just a tropical gardiner chatting with friends)
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To: DWW1990
The talking heads still don't get it. In large part, America has figured it out. For the last quarter of a century, WE the Republic, have been denied the choice to say NO to socialism.

It has been a setup. The fix was always in. We, the Republic, have been loosing a war of financial attrition for decades. We, the Republic are engaged in a war with those who govern us. Drastic measures are required to defeat this enemy in order to stop the bleeding that each of us are seeing in the depreciation of our savings, the constant onslaught of taxes, fees, and licenses. Each of them designed to remove our ability to live free.

If a slave is a person who works for no money, then a paid person who works with no money left for savings or investment is therefore a slave.

The Communists are very good at planning each move, they have been at it for over sixty years, to bury us. They are so close to succeeding.

Trump has stepped in and has sensed our rage.We want to throw our shoes into the machinery. We want to turn over the apple carts and toss tea into the harbor. Trump is giving us a voice. He is giving our children and grandchildren a fighting chance of enjoying the life that our parents fought and spilled blood in Europe and Japan so as to impart liberty to ourselves.

No, we will no longer hide in the shadow of political correctness.

No, we will no longer stand idle in the face of the globalist Red Menace.

No, we will not play the game of choosing which Socialist will rob our children.

No, we will not play the game of choosing which Socialist will import an army of decapitating, lawless, savages into our home to eradicate Freedom and the American Way.

ANY and EVERY politician who will not build a wall is declaring he/she DOES NOT CARE IF YOU DIE!

I do not think Trump is a conservative.

I do not think Trump is morally pious and pure.

I do not think Trump is void of indiscretions or mistakes.

I do believe that any candidate that is a true conservative, morally pure, pious, and has walked the straight and narrow...would not stand a chance against the the globalist red menace that is systematically deconstructing our nation.

No, far from it.

Right now we need our own paladin of chaotic malice with a depraved sense of overly vengeful justice that will stand not for giving quarter. Right now we need our own Son of a Bitch glorious bastard, faults and all. We need to stomp out the treachery of political correctness that perpetuates racial discontent and has created Europe-istan, a Nuclear Iran, as well as ushering in a new world order of penniless servitude consisting of the entire earthly population bowing to but a few of the elite socialist megalomaniacs.

We need our own monster.

Ted Cruz may well be as advertised. No one knows. Four years ago, no one knew who he was.

He is young, deploy the Trump Bomb now, it is an ugly weapon of mass destruction that will result in some collateral damage, but it is required.

Alas, we have run out of time.

It will take many Ted Cruz clones to restore order in the aftermath.

23 posted on 02/22/2016 7:40:12 AM PST by RavenLooneyToon (Trump or Cruz, if you don't vote then STFU and leave the country, non-voters =non-Republic.)
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To: RavenLooneyToon

Much of your post reminds me of Samuel Adams. A do-er, not a talker. That’s what we need now!


24 posted on 02/22/2016 7:41:45 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (Romans 8:38-39)
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To: gusty

Some may say history and the past is important in order to learn and improve the past but there’s also the other side of this that perhaps isn’t understood by some at that being ones not liking Trump. There is this large group of Americans who live in the present and think in the present as me. I’m up in my years and have lived a lot of the past history but I want to be a part of the history being made today and tomorrow. Trump is a business man who knows the economy and how it works because he has worked in it first hand. He’s my big appeal because he has lived as a blue collar man. You can judge his private life all you want as your standard but mine it much different and I’m ok with it. I respect where your living but ask you respect where my thoughts are too.


25 posted on 02/22/2016 7:43:29 AM PST by STARLIT ((Tea Partier))
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To: nathanbedford
You're wrong, I can answer all of those fairly confidently.

There is a GOOD conservative case for Trump.

The scales on your eyes just won't allow you to see it. Being bitter that your preferred candidate isn't likely to win won't help you much either.

26 posted on 02/22/2016 7:47:46 AM PST by Lakeshark
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To: Lakeshark
The scales on your eyes just won't allow you to see it. Being bitter that your preferred candidate isn't likely to win won't help you much either.

For the record I have already conceded in the wake of South Carolina that Trump will be the nominee. Further, I stated that I would vote for him in the general. Beyond that, I do not understand why it is necessary for you to comment on my alleged "bitterness."

I would like to know as a matter of intellectual curiosity what the good conservative case for Trump is as the man who condoned partial-birth abortion?

What is the good conservative case for consorting with Democrats, mafioso, convicted felons, corrupt union leaders, and hiring illegal immigrants?

What is the good conservative case for multiple divorces and multiple bankruptcies?

What is the good conservative case for the poor business judgment that led to the extravaganza and bankruptcy of Taj Mahal?

What is the good conservative case for contributing to Democrat politicians in their campaigns against conservatives?

What is the good conservative case for contributing to the establishment Republicans like Mitch McConnell in their campaigns against Tea Party insurgents like Bevan?

I am really curious what the good conservative case is for Trump's lying about his opposition to the war in Iraq?

I expect a "good conservative case" will be that somebody else is worse or just as bad. Or maybe "the good conservative case" will be he wins elections.


27 posted on 02/22/2016 8:00:44 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford
Two thirds of your post shows why I mentioned that bitterness. It needs no explanation other than perhaps by you, to you.

Perhaps if you backed off a little bit I could help you out with that conservative case, but I don't think you're ready for that yet.

Display a little bit of anger for what we're facing right now as a country, and a little less towards Trump and maybe you and I will have a good and enlightening conversation.

I'll give you a hint. It starts here: I have good reasons to support either Trump or Cruz, but they are very different. I have good reasons to dislike Trump and Cruz, but they are very different.

28 posted on 02/22/2016 8:08:45 AM PST by Lakeshark
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To: DWW1990

They trust Trump because he says to. There is nothing in his record that says trustworthy. It’s one thing to make money in business using intimidation and the mob. That does not translate into being leader of the USA.


29 posted on 02/22/2016 8:14:00 AM PST by libbylu (Cruz: The truth with a smile.)
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To: Lakeshark
Two thirds of your post shows why I mentioned that bitterness. It needs no explanation other than perhaps by you, to you.

I think a review of my posts will show that I am very careful about personal attacks. I have no compunction about attacking politicians personally but I try very hard to refrain from attacking fellow conservatives in this forum personally-which is an entirely different matter from attacking their facts or attacking their logic.

I would be delighted to have a "good and enlightening conversation" with you but I think you should consider whether the way toward that conversation is to commence it by condescending to me.


30 posted on 02/22/2016 8:15:23 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: DWW1990
The temptations for corruption are rampant.

Trump ??

He is worth 10 BILLION DOLLARS !

He is running because he is a patriot and hates seeing where this Country is headed.

31 posted on 02/22/2016 8:15:49 AM PST by painter ( Isaiah: �Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,")
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To: NIKK

I was specifically referring to the birther issue, not anything else. I do not have any beef with what you state, except for Trump having lived as a blue collar man, he has never a day in his life. You seem to speak from the heart and make no false pretensions about your stand. You do not declare that what you aspire to is “Conservatism” like others have, you are honest about what Trump is to yourself.


32 posted on 02/22/2016 8:22:22 AM PST by gusty
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To: painter

“Trump is worth 10 BILLION DOLLARS!”

Trump is also running because his ten billion dollars will only be good for confetti unless someone takes the helm, now and soon.


33 posted on 02/22/2016 8:24:30 AM PST by kiltie65
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To: kiltie65

For the sake of the facts, Trump is not as wealthy as he portrays himself. In his financial statement, he values the Trump name and brand in the billions. It is a number he has picked out of thin air. Unless he can sell that name to someone else for billions, the valuation is meaningless.


34 posted on 02/22/2016 8:30:51 AM PST by gusty
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To: kiltie65

For the sake of the facts, Trump is not as wealthy as he portrays himself. In his financial statement, he values the Trump name and brand in the billions. It is a number he has picked out of thin air. Unless he can sell that name to someone else for billions, the valuation is meaningless.


35 posted on 02/22/2016 8:30:52 AM PST by gusty
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To: nathanbedford
I did not read your bitterness as towards me or as a personal attack towards me. I am not attacking you either, simply pointing out what is self evident from that post.

My intent is not to condescend, and I hope you will return the favor.

36 posted on 02/22/2016 8:31:45 AM PST by Lakeshark
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To: kiltie65
Yep, you are right, and he doesn't want to loose it.

Just think. If all the money he has becomes worthless just think where we will be in that mess!

37 posted on 02/22/2016 8:33:40 AM PST by painter ( Isaiah: �Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,")
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To: libbylu

Exactly!!


38 posted on 02/22/2016 8:36:12 AM PST by DWW1990
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To: CIB-173RDABN

We can’t just be angry at them we need to HURT them badly by getting those who need to be tossed from office, tossed. We need to get those FIRED who need to be Fired, fired. And when the MSM comes screaming about how can Trump fire lifelong Dem operatives/bureaucrats, Trump will tell Dem all to go EF themselves! But that’s just my thoughts on the matter.


39 posted on 02/22/2016 8:54:12 AM PST by Harpotoo
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To: DWW1990
"Of course, a devout Christian in the White House won’t cure sin in our culture. Nevertheless, history and sound conservative doctrine prove that a strong Christian worldview is the surest means by which to secure and promote liberty, peace, and prosperity in the U.S. and the world over. "

Coincidence is not causation, big fella. History has only shown that some things happened at the same time. But the world has changed; our country has changed. A huge percentage of our nation has no idea what to conserve, much less why it should be conserved.

The system is broken. It needs a bulldozer to clear out the marxists from government and try to set things up for a subsequent conservative. When the GOPe is in the penalty box for having let the Republic slip from its hands while its hands were in the taxpayer's pockets, it don't get to score the touchdown. Neither does a sitting Senator without any real-world experience.

40 posted on 02/22/2016 12:31:35 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Who can actually defeat the Democrats in 2016? -- the most important thing about all candidates.)
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