As Ted Cruz pulls ahead in Iowa, he becomes favored to be the next president

The Examiner ^ | December 21, 2015 | Mark Whittington

[Marcella]

“For years, FR has angrily said that the conservative base should unite around one candidate. And when it FINALLY starts to happen, and this time around the best conservative candidate, people here are STILL angry.”

Yes, and one wrong idea is Cruz is too conservative to win. I never thought I would hear that here. Some are recent new members who came here just to support Trump but there are long timers who have been captivated by Trump’s false advertising and cannot see though his act.

[Marcella]

Thanks for your post. You have it exactly correct.

[CatherineofAragon]

I’m also seeing an increase in Cruz birtherism among some of them, even the ones who have been here for a long time. I suspect they’ve always believed Cruz is ineligible, but only now feel secure enough to bring their views into the open.

Also...browsing Trump threads from 2011 is very illuminating. Some of the most feverishly adoring Trump fans were denouncing him in the most bald terms back then.

Which leads me to wonder, how much of his support here is genuine, and how much of it is based on wanting to go along with the flow/fear of bucking the trend?

[Fundamentally Fair]

Some of the most feverishly adoring Trump fans were denouncing him in the most bald terms back then.

I'd LOVE to see those comments.

[SamAdams76]

I'm currently a Trump supporter (and a long timer here) but I'm very happy that Ted Cruz is doing well. I would certainly vote for Cruz very enthusiastically should be become the nominee.

The fact that Trump and Cruz are currently in the process of putting distance between themselves and GOPe candidates like Rubio and Jebbie Bush should be a reason for celebration here on Free Republic and not a source of discontent.

So why are so many Freepers currently favoring Trump over Cruz? I think that conservatives have been screwed over so many times by career politicians that they are fed up and willing to consider somebody from the outside - even if they are an imperfect candidate.

Maybe Trump is not as conservative as Cruz but Trump is his own man and is beholden to nobody. He will go into Washington and really shake things up - which is what this country needs at this time.

Ted Cruz is still only 44 years old. He has a great future ahead of him. Even if Trump serves out two terms, Cruz will still be a very young 52 years old and that much more seasoned than he is today. If all falls into place, we could be looking at 16 years of leadership by Trump and Cruz. (Cruz need not serve as Trump's VP to be a viable candidate when Trump leaves office).

However, if Trump does falter, I will happily throw my support to Cruz. But people have been expecting Trump to falter for half a year now and he's as strong as ever. I think Trump may have this nomination and election pretty much sewn up. We shall see.

[Yosemitest]

Most of those CLAIMING that "Cruz is too conservative to win", actually KNOW ... that Cruz is JUST CONSERVATIVE ENOUGH to win !

So they keep shouting the LIE, hoping that 'the steeple' will believe their LIE !
But it's NOT WORKING !

They will see that TED CRUZ STOOD WITH Jeff Sessions and Steve King,
while Marco Rubio stood with Barack Obama and Chuck Schemer !


They can't stop CRUZ.
Source:
... Cruz even indicated he would back deporting those who came here illegally -- another proposal he has usually rebuffed.

"I would enforce the law," Cruz said, explaining that he would first deport criminals without proper papers.
"Federal immigration law provides that
if someone is here illegally and is apprehended,
that they should be sent back to their home country."

Cruz has recently begun stressing that he believes the number of undocumented immigrants would decrease with strict border enforcement.
...

"The only people I'm under fire from are reporters who want to throw rocks," Cruz said in Harlan.
"Once we've demonstrated that we can solve the problem, then we can have a conversation about what to do about whatever people remain illegally."

The Rubio campaign ...
"He has attempted to muddy the waters," Cruz said on the stage. "Where there was a battle over amnesty
and some chose, like Sen. Rubio to stand with Barack Obama and Chuck Schemer
and support a massive amnesty plan.
Others chose to stand with Jeff Sessions and Steve King and the American people
and secure the border."

[CatherineofAragon]

I’m heading to bed, but I promise I’ll Freepmail you with some tomorrow. In the meantime, keyword “Trump2012” will pull up some results.

[Yosemitest]

NO, they're just beating their LIE, hoping 'the sheeple' will NOT research the matter .

BUT some us have THE FACTS on 'speed post' !

TED CRUZ is by far, the MOST CONSERVATIVE CANDIDATE we've got !

FACT: Cruz’s father’s Cuban nationality at the time of Cruz’s birth, is irrelevant, according to the law at that time,
just so long as he was a LEGAL Immigrant at the time of Ted Cruz's birth,
AND both of Ted Cruz's parents were legally married to each other.

What are the rules for people born between December 23, 1952 and November 13, 1986?

The 14th Amendment IS a part of the U.S. Constitution and states in SECTION 5.
The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.
So, under that power to legislate, Congress legislated and the President signed into law:
When ONE parent was a US citizen and the other a foreign national,
the US citizen parent must have resided in the US for a total of 10 years prior to the birth of the child,
with five of the years after the age of 14.

... While there were initially rules regarding what the child must do to retain citizenship,
amendments since 1952 HAVE ELIMINATED THESE REQUIREMENTS.

When Ted Cruz was born, his parents were "IN WEDLOCK".

They married, moved to Calgary, Alberta, and in late 1970 had their first and only child, Rafael Edward Cruz.
Cruz was born on December 22, 1970 in Calgary, Alberta, Canada where his parents, Eleanor Elizabeth Darragh Wilson and Rafael Bienvenido Cruz.

Cruz's mother was born and raised in Wilmington, Delaware, in a family of three quarters Irish and one quarter Italian descent.
Eleanor Darragh, mother of Ted Cruz, was raised in Delaware, graduated from a Catholic High School (1952) in the U.S., as well as Rice University (1956),
so clearly she meets the residency requirements.

Source

In 1957, Rafael Bienvenido Cruz (Ted Cruz's father) decided to get out of Cuba by applying to the University of Texas.
Upon being admitted, he adds, he got a four-year student visa at the U.S. Consulate in Havana.

"Since he liked to eat seven days a week, he worked seven days a week, and he paid his way through the University of Texas," Ted Cruz says of his father, "and then ended up getting a job and eventually going on to start a small business and to work towards the American dream."

Only he did that in Canada, where Ted was born.
His father went there after having earlier obtained political asylum in the U.S. when his student visa ran out.
He then got a green card, he says, and married Ted's mother, an American citizen.
The two of them moved to Canada to work in the oil industry.

"I worked in Canada for eight years," Rafael Cruz says. "And while I was in Canada, I became a Canadian citizen."

The elder Cruz says he renounced his Canadian citizenship when he finally became a U.S. citizen in 2005 —
48 years after leaving Cuba.
Why did he take so long to do it?
"I don't know. I guess laziness, or — I don't know," he says.

So there is the law for the time Ted Cruz was born,
AND HOW Ted Cruz's PARENTS fulfilled ALL those requirements of the law that time, for Ted Cruz to be a "Natural Born Citizen".
Ted Cruz did NOT NEED a Court and a Judge to "Nationalize" him.

“Senator Cruz became a U.S. citizen at birth, and he never had to go through a naturalization process after birth to become a U.S. citizen,” said spokeswoman Catherine Frazier.
... The U.S. Constitution allows only a “natural born” American citizen to serve as president.
Most legal scholars who have studied the question agree that includes an American born overseas to an American parent, such as Cruz.

[House Atreides]

The fact that Trump and Cruz are currently in the process of putting distance between themselves and GOPe candidates like Rubio and Jebbie Bush should be a reason for celebration here on Free Republic and not a source of discontent.
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I revel in the fact that Trump & Cruz are currently the top two —BY A LARGE MARGIN. That margin is large enough so that most, and possibly all, of the other candidates would not get enough votes in the “proportional” primary stated to get ANY of that state’s delegates that are to be allocated proportionally. A candidate, in most of those states, has to get at least a certain percentage (the “threshold” percentage) of the state’s vote to qualify for delegates. I’d like to see most of those states have ALL their allocated delegates to go to Trump or Cruz...and NONE to the remainder (who are all GOPe or spoiler candidates IMHO).

FOLKS, LET’S NOT FIGHT WITH ONE ANOTHER WHILE THINGS ARE FINALLY GOING OUR WAY.

[RayChuang88]

Correct. Cruz has quietly built up a GIGANTIC "boots on the ground" organization in Iowa, New Hampshire and just about every one of the early caucus/primary states. His current tour is to shore up the support in those early voting states.

[Colonel_Flagg]

Which leads me to wonder, how much of his support here is genuine, and how much of it is based on wanting to go along with the flow/fear of bucking the trend?

Or how much of it is based on not wanting to admit a mistake?

[trebb]

“For years, FR has angrily said that the conservative base should unite around one candidate. And when it FINALLY starts to happen, and this time around the best conservative candidate, people here are STILL angry.” Yes, and one wrong idea is Cruz is too conservative to win. I never thought I would hear that here. Some are recent new members who came here just to support Trump but there are long timers who have been captivated by Trump’s false advertising and cannot see though his act.

Yepper - as Pogo said, "We have met the enemy and he is us".

Over the years it has become clear that many here seem to revel in losing because they don't feel complete unless they have something to complain about. They will have a single (usually secondary to the big items) issue that they claim makes it "unprincipled" to back the most conservative hope we have and they seem to specialize in finding the slightest fault w/o ever finding a way to back someone.

Those are the folks who propose something like "write in Virgil Goode" as their 'solution".

They claim to espouse conservatism then tell us they don't think its a winner - ironic....

[longtermmemmory]

that is why the establishment has all these “gop ending as conservative party” BS journ-o-list articles out. (will rove etc)

I am just talking today, see real clear editorials list.

It is not the “elected” we have to consider, it is also the UNelected bureaucrats at the epa,fcc,cdc,noaa, who are dedicated nutjob leftists.

Those need to hear “YOU are fired.”

(start with korsican)