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Can Ted Cruz break into the top tier?
WPTZ-TV ^ | July 6, 2015 | Theodore Schleifer, CNN

Posted on 07/06/2015 8:05:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Jack Black

Didn’t you read:

Here’s one article:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2014/03/12/the-problem-with-modern-polling-in-one-chart/

Cruz is the best man, period! There’s still over a year left. I’ll wait. You can go ahead and trust the polls.


121 posted on 07/09/2015 7:38:54 PM PDT by Lake Living
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To: Lake Living

Shouldn’t the question be...
Can the top tier catch up to
Ted Cruz???


122 posted on 07/09/2015 7:40:57 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Lake Living
Yeah, sure I read that. But I've heard it for years, but it practice that theory is wrong, and the polls continue to accurately predict results to an almost scary extent.

For instance, here are stats for Nate Silver from the article about him at WIkipeida:

In the 2012 United States presidential election between Barack Obama and Mitt Romney, he correctly predicted the winner of all 50 states and the District of Columbia.[11] That same year, Silver's predictions of U.S. Senate races were correct in 31 of 33 states; he predicted Republican victory in North Dakota and Montana, where Democrats won.

Now I agree that polls this far out in GOP primaries can not predict winners. I have argued that can probably predict losers pretty accurately. Bobby Jindal and John Kasich and Carly Fiorina are not going to win the nomination.

But the demise of polls based on cell phones is a vastly oversold meme.

123 posted on 07/09/2015 10:25:17 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: Jack Black

The Nate Silver stats are impressive and that’s also what I meant “polls this far out… cannot predict winners.” I also agree you don’t need poll numbers to predict that Rick Perry, Rick Santorum, Marco Rubio, Rand Paul, George Pataki, John Kasich, Mike Huckabee, Lindsey Graham, Chris Christie and most of the other 32 that are running are not going to win. Trump seems on fire right now but that could very easily change. He has tapped into the frustration that many Americans feel (myself included) and he is stomping all over political correctness. But he is also on record for very liberal causes. Maybe he has the right mix of liberal/conservative flavors the public wants. But he is not the kind of guy I can trust. The cell ph thing might be over sold but the vote buying, cheating and voting by the dead isn’t. I’m too suspicious of the entire election machinery at this point to trust much in any of it - polls included. I still believe Cruz is the best man - but he may not be the man the country wants - but look at what most of our country does want(!). Let’s see how the debates go. I pray Cruz gets in them. If not, then, yea, he is finished. If he does get in I believe he will demonstrate that he has very reasoned answers that conservatives will relate to. Reagan didn’t win the first time he tried and you can’t say he wasn’t the best man at that time - the people just didn’t see it.


124 posted on 07/10/2015 5:38:24 AM PDT by Lake Living
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