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To: TNMOUTH; xzins; fortheDeclaration; odawg
Wow, you should also read what the other side says too...before you claim to know so much.

I have read the other side. I have also read the constitution. TPA and the Constitution are at polar ends here.

First, tell me WHY it is unconstitutional. Then, tell me when TPA first came to be.

Because it removes the 2/3 Senate requirement for the ratification of treaties. By all measures and in accordance with the definition of treaties as understood by the founders, TPP is a treaty and TPA violates the Constitution by allowing a simple majority vote on the treaty.

What the hell do you mean by "tell me when TPA first came to be"?

This bill or the first attempt by Congress to bypass the Constitution?

Congress is always looking for ways to bypass the Constitution. Congress hates the Constitution for the simple reason that it limits their powers. They have done it since the First Congress. They will continue to do it as long as we let them. Obama hates the Constitution because it limits his power. Obama wants the powers that TPA gives him. But the Constitution does not grant him those powers, so he wants TPA so he can do an end run around it.

The Constitution is basically a dead letter at this point despite the fact that 535 Senators and Congressmen have taken an oath to uphold and defend it. And yet those people are the enemies of the very document they have sworn to protect.

Then, try to deny that the guy didn’t plant the story so that people like you would freak out.

I never heard of him before the Ted Cruz's people started posting articles about him here and claiming that he is the general in charge of the opposition to this bill.

Honestly had anyone on Free Republic ever heard of him before?

Will you swear on a stack of Bibles that you knew all about him before Ted Cruz's campaign came on here and tried to point the finger at him for being in charge of the opposition?

What a bunch of crap.

TPA is unconstitutional. Anyone who voted for it violated their oath.

251 posted on 06/18/2015 8:45:28 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Saying that ISIL is not Islamic is like saying Obama is not an Idiot.)
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To: P-Marlowe
I received a fund raiser request from Cruz.

The usual anti-Obama rhetoric.

I sent it back and wrote on it 'you sold us out'.

258 posted on 06/18/2015 9:30:35 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: P-Marlowe

Right...

so a basic question (since you are obviously the Constitutional expert):

Who knows more about whether or not TPA is Constitutional...you, or a man who was a Constitutional attorney and who defended this Constitution as Solicitor General of Texas?


286 posted on 06/19/2015 5:36:58 AM PDT by TNMOUTH
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To: P-Marlowe

Ok, so I’ll ask you like I asked others...

If you have read the arguments for TPA, and you have read the Constitution, what makes you think you are right? Or, could it be, that a Harvard Educated, top of his class Constitutional attorney who was the Solicitor General of Texas (with no history of being unconstitutional) is doing something that violates the Constitution? I am sorry, but first, it isn’t Unconstitutional (again, explained if you actually read TPA supporter posts) and B, not to insult you, but I trust Ted to know the Constitution and the details of the bill better than you.


322 posted on 06/20/2015 6:03:02 AM PDT by TNMOUTH
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