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To: Nero Germanicus
I looked at that page of codes you suggest but I don't see the definitions for natural born citizens anywhere; in fact, the words "natural born" don't appear all. Citizen at birth does not automatically equal a natural born citizen in terms of becoming POTUS. That's what I'm asking about since there is actually no clear definition in the US Constitution of what defines a natural born citizen, and no court has ruled on the question.

Also, perhaps you will look at this answer on Ted's eligibility.

The author writes: "While we cannot definitively say "yes" to the question at hand, we believe that Cruz's eligibility would most likely be granted if challenged in the court system."

Most likely granted is this person's opinion, but it's not settled law.

The code you reference does have some information as to the citizen status of a person of unknown parentage which I was curious about, but would that person be eligible to become POTUS?

The overarching question for me is the issue of protecting the nation from foreign influence by allowing the POTUS to be any ordinary type of US citizen. Clearly, that was the intention when it was inserted as a special condition in Article Two of the Constitution, given the state of mind of writers at the time.

My belief is that natural born applies only to children with both parents being US Citizens at birth. That means Marco Rubio would be ineligible as well if his father became naturalized after he was born. The location of birth is of less concern to me, especially in cases where the parents are on US military bases or travelling outside the US while the baby happened to be born. Although, being born on US soil would remove any doubt whatsoever. As I said, I'm 100% natural born. Any deviations from my birth conditions in this debate are subject to interpretation.

97 posted on 06/04/2015 10:31:01 AM PDT by Rona Badger (Heeds the Calling Wind)
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100 posted on 06/04/2015 10:55:29 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Rona_Badger

As I said, modern day courts use the statutory term “Citizen of the United States At Birth” and the Constitutional term “natural born citizen” to be synonymous,
Since the adoption of the Citizenship Clause of the 14th Amendment in 1868, no court has ever ruled that an Article Two “natural born citizen” and a 14th Amendment “born citizen” are different from each other.

For example, Tisdale v Obama, U.S. District Court Judge John A. Gibney, Jr.: “It is well settled that those born within the United States are natural born citizens.”— U.S. District Court of the Eastern District of Virginia, January 23, 2012.

There have been sixteen judicial rulings that state Barack Obama is a natural born citizen. Here’s just one more, for the sake of space:
Purpura & Moran v Obama: New Jersey Administrative Law Judge Jeff S. Masin: “No court, federal, state or administrative, has accepted the challengers’ position that Mr. Obama is not a “natural born Citizen” due to the acknowledged fact that his father was born in Kenya and was a British citizen by virtue of the then applicable British Nationality Act. Nor has the fact that Obama had, or may have had, dual citizenship at the time of his birth and thereafter been held to deny him the status of natural born. It is unnecessary to reinvent the wheel here. … The petitioners’ legal position on this issue, however well intentioned, has no merit in law. Thus, accepting for the point of this issue that Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii, he is a ‘natural born Citizen’ regardless of the status of his father.” April 10, 2012
http://www.scribd.com/doc/88936737/2012-04-10-NJ-Purpura-Moran-v-Obama-Initial-Decision-of-ALJ-Masin-Apuzzo


102 posted on 06/04/2015 12:53:38 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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