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Is he right?
1 posted on 04/29/2015 10:15:07 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

we are gonna have civil war in the country soon enough


2 posted on 04/29/2015 10:19:25 PM PDT by GeronL (Clearly Cruz 2016)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He is as far as I’m concerned. Living in SoCal I’ve seen mass third world immigration up close and personal. I quit voting for treason lobby Republicans years ago.


3 posted on 04/29/2015 10:21:56 PM PDT by Pelham (The refusal to deport is defacto amnesty)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I really have a hard time understanding why people who think there is no opportunity for inner city youts and lower skilled Black kids are so gung-ho supporting unlimited illegal immigration of literally millions into the country. Why is the obvious connection so hard to see?


4 posted on 04/29/2015 10:23:00 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder
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The only war is between GOP politicians. A wise politician can easily unite voters on this issue.


6 posted on 04/29/2015 10:27:17 PM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If immigration was going to start a “war” in the GOP, we would have seen it 10 years ago.


8 posted on 04/29/2015 10:28:16 PM PDT by Tzimisce
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“Is he right?”

Obviously not.

What’s going on with all these fools? Bring every turd world person here and it’ll destroy not only what is left of the Republican Party, but our nation as well. We won’t be any good at all to anybody once we fall too.

Oh yeah, silly me, that’s the plan.


9 posted on 04/29/2015 10:42:02 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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In a very important way, he is not correct. He asks that we look beyond our borders and recognize the desperation. The conditions beyond our borders have always sucked. That won't change any time soon.

He is right about not being able to stop them with just border enforcement. The only way to stop them is to take away the ability to work. If the government would get serious about workplace enforcement this wave could be stopped. One only needs to make the correlation between the Dreamer policies of the Obama admin. and the wave of kids at the border to see that policy can affect immigration.

10 posted on 04/29/2015 10:43:17 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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No, he’s not right.

The reason they are not assimilating is because they don’t have to. They know that with all the Democrats and the RINO and establishment Republicans allowing an open border and no enforcement, the Hispanics will soon be the majority, and they will be demanding that everyone else assimilate into THEIR culture and language.

Like the vacillation on slavery that killed the Whig Party, the Republican elites’ vacillation on amnesty will mean that if they have a pro-amnesty candidate in 2016, there will be no party in 2017.


12 posted on 04/29/2015 10:57:49 PM PDT by oldbill
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"As long as people continue to be oppressed and unable to support their families in these “corrupt, socialist countries,” noted Viguerie, America will continue to face an illegal immigration problem. "

If they are refugees than they could be provided temporary housing in refugee facilities until they are able apply for and find new homes in cooperating host countries.
13 posted on 04/29/2015 11:18:09 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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No, he’s not right.

America can and must control its borders.


14 posted on 04/29/2015 11:26:48 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Richard Viguerie has sunk into the morass of GOPe idiotcy. So we need to “recognize” that cesspools such as Honduras and Somalia have problems? And the solution is to give up fighting the massive waves of illegal (and “legal”, but ill-advised, immigration of “refugees” from the cesspools) and just accept that situation? The only thing that will accomplish is to move America further along into becoming just another cesspool. Somalian “refugees” did not leave their hell-on-earth behind, they’ve brought it with them.


15 posted on 04/29/2015 11:42:12 PM PDT by House Atreides (CRUZ or lose!)
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Reagan was right...... it only takes one generation to lose our nation..

Thanks?

Send them to Ted Kennedy c/o the devil......


18 posted on 04/30/2015 12:02:12 AM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare berry bear formerly known as Arctos Horribilis.)
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Is he right?

He should be right - I am losing confidence that we will allow ourselves to reach the "snapping point" and actually ignite such a civil war. We have a history of taking the easier, "more convenient" approach which is to roll over and then bitch about how it is going.

19 posted on 04/30/2015 4:46:59 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat????
Things are kinda bad for foreign folks in foreign lands.

SO GO AHEAD AND IMPORT THEM AND BRING THEIR PROBLEMS HERE!

That helps who, exactly??


20 posted on 04/30/2015 5:09:24 AM PDT by Flintlock (Our soapbox is gone, the ballot box stolen--we're left with the bullet box now.)
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The top of the party is totally committed to continuing to flood the country with foreigners. The voters do not want the invasion to continue.
Either there will be a civil war within the party or the party will cease to exist.


21 posted on 04/30/2015 5:33:07 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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” is the desperate situations immigrants face in the countries they are leaving.”

Not my problem.


22 posted on 04/30/2015 5:36:15 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Quite possibly, he is correct.

Especially since we apparently have ceded control of the language of the debate to the left.

It is not “immigration”, but rather “illegal immigration” that is the issue. What disagreements we have with legal immigration often stem from the underlying mass influx of illegals.

We need to stop using the lying language of the left, IMO.


23 posted on 04/30/2015 5:45:06 AM PDT by MortMan (All those in favor of gun control raise both hands!)
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“Has anyone looked beyond our border?” he asked. “At some point you have to do that, but no one seems to be talking about it…no one is looking at the root causes.” As long as people continue to be oppressed and unable to support their families in these “corrupt, socialist countries,” noted Viguerie, America will continue to face an illegal immigration problem.

Not hardly. If we try to control the world by making every other place better, we will fail. If we control entry into our country, and use our shining beacon status to attract high quality immigrants, we will have more influence elsewhere. As it is, all we are doing is clawing our way down to the level of our surrounding neighbors, down to the lowest common denominator.

24 posted on 04/30/2015 5:47:47 AM PDT by MortMan (All those in favor of gun control raise both hands!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

yes


29 posted on 02/12/2016 7:27:28 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to to God!)
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