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Michigan Political Points: Electoral college debate returns ahead of 2016 presidential race
Mlive.com ^ | March 14, 2015 | Jonathan Oosting

Posted on 03/15/2015 2:08:04 PM PDT by cripplecreek

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While I don't think it would be as bad for democrats as they ask I do think it would give us a fighting chance.

Liberals are flipping out about it.
1 posted on 03/15/2015 2:08:04 PM PDT by cripplecreek
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To: Springman; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; madison10; ...
One way to break the Detroit/Flint vote fraud cartel

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2 posted on 03/15/2015 2:09:10 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: Whenifhow

Thanks for the heads up.


3 posted on 03/15/2015 2:10:36 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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Consider if the law followed by Maine and Nebraska were in place in 2012.

2012 represented the first time since 1960 that the winner of the election did not win the popular vote in a majority of congressional districts. As President Obama was reelected, the reduction of his overall percentage of the vote from 53.7 in 2008 to 52.0 in 2012 also resulted in a majority of districts voting for Romney. Obama, the Democrat, ‘won’ 209 districts while the Republican, former Governor Romney, ‘won’ 226.

That would put Romney in the lead--though not at a win.

Now, if I recall correctly, in Nebraska and Maine, the OTHER two electoral votes go to the "overall" statewide winner.

Romney won 24 states in 2012, which would have given him 48 more electoral votes if the Nebraska/Maine model were followed.

226+48=274 Electoral votes.

Valerie's man-child was able to seize 26 states plus the DC region. That would net her team 55 EVs.

209+55=264.

Romney would be the one working to rebuild America, instead of Hussein doing Val's bidding in destroying the republic.

4 posted on 03/15/2015 2:13:19 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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Giving the votes proportionally would ruin any attempt by the democrats to cheat their way to victory in Detroit and Flint.

Go ahead and produce a billion Detroit votes for democrats, ya still only get 1 vote from your district.

Naturally the democrats are livid.


5 posted on 03/15/2015 2:18:56 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: SoFloFreeper
Romney would be the one working to rebuild America, instead of Hussein doing Val's bidding in destroying the republic.

Romney is a statist, he would not be working to rebuild the Republic, but to solidify its destruction.
In this, there is no difference between Romney and Obama.

6 posted on 03/15/2015 2:19:26 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Romney doesn’t matter at this point.

The point is that this plan would override democrat attempts at fraud and give us a fighting chance in Michigan.


7 posted on 03/15/2015 2:21:19 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: SoFloFreeper
Reggie Love would have to change his tats, LOL


8 posted on 03/15/2015 2:25:30 PM PDT by nascarnation (Impeach, convict, deport)
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To: cripplecreek

This has enormous potential. There are quite a few states where the winner is decided by the voter fraud in big cities in that state. However, it’s a bit like belling the cat — you have to get a GOP majority and governor in the state before it could pass.


9 posted on 03/15/2015 2:26:20 PM PDT by expat2
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To: cripplecreek
Romney doesn’t matter at this point.

Agreed.

The point is that this plan would override democrat attempts at fraud and give us a fighting chance in Michigan.

Democrat fraud means nothing if the only other option is functionally identical Republican — yes, the system needs to have integrity… but, then, so do the candidates.

10 posted on 03/15/2015 2:26:29 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

If you think about it, this would have forced Romney to campaign in conservative districts instead of focusing on the big money around Detroit.


11 posted on 03/15/2015 2:27:54 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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The only reason that the electoral college was ever an issue, imo, is because the crooks want to insure their “fair” share of the tsunami of unconstitutional federal taxes that have been going through DC for decades.
“Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.” —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

The state legislatures need to grow some and work with patriots to put a stop to illegal federal taxes. And when voters manage to peacefully force corrupt Congress back into its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited power cage, then we’re probably going to have problems finding good people to serve as federal lawmakers.

On the other hand, since the plurality of clauses in Section 8 deal with military, serving as federal lawmaker would be a good way to honor outstanding retired soldiers.

12 posted on 03/15/2015 2:30:46 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: cripplecreek

The electoral college is enumerated in terms of the number of Congressional districts, plus one for each Senate seat.

Not sure why this simple solution eludes folks (other than protecting their own self-serving interests).

Each congressional district gets ONE EV, and it casts in favor of the national candidate taking a plurality of the vote in that district.
Each State then has two EV’s to be cast in favor of the candidate who wins a plurality of the vote in the State.

Simple. Representative of the Congressional district politics at the same time.

Levels out the uneven playing field monopolized by large metro areas. Here in Ohio, for instance, it doesn’t take too close a look to see that the State would have swung heavily Republican if you take out the inordinate influence of Cleveland, Cincinnati, and Columbus; add in Dayton and Toledo, and those of us elsewhere in the State could just say home.


13 posted on 03/15/2015 3:15:41 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2016; I pray we make it that long.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Nope.


14 posted on 03/15/2015 3:18:00 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: cripplecreek

It would be great, but it would never happen in MI. PA had the same idea a couple of years back but nixed it when it had a nominal Republican governor.


15 posted on 03/15/2015 3:23:10 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: Theodore R.

They said RTW would never happen in Michigan too.


16 posted on 03/15/2015 3:25:05 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: cripplecreek

I’d rather have the house vote for the President.

Districts select their representative and the representative votes for the President. No winner take all.


17 posted on 03/15/2015 3:25:55 PM PDT by CriticalJ (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.. But then I repeat myself. MT)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Nope.

No, Romney's not a statist?
Prove it.

18 posted on 03/15/2015 3:29:30 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: cripplecreek

I prefer the district system.

A simple majority (50+ %) of each district decides which candidate receives that district’s electoral vote. If none of the candidates receive a majority, the two candidates that receive the most votes have a run off election 30 days later.

The state then has two other electoral votes. One should go to the candidate that received the most votes in the state. The second should go to the candidate that won the most districts in that state. Should there not a candidate that won the most districts in that state, the Gov at the time of the election appoints the state’s final electoral vote.


19 posted on 03/15/2015 3:33:16 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: cripplecreek

This is also something that the Wisconsin Legislature should consider.


20 posted on 03/15/2015 3:54:50 PM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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