No, you’ll never hear that from any “establishment” representatives of what laughingly passes itself off as “The Left”-—they went along with the PNAC too, while hedging their bets ever-so-gently, hoping they could wring some credit if things turned out all right in Iraq, and Afghanistan. Well, they didn’t, and the fact that this current Adminstration couldn’t bring itself to do anything pro-active like bomb the ISIS convoys , which clearly advertisted themselves in yellow Toyota trucks as they made their way from city to city in an orgy of murder and mayhem, means that they too are a continuation of the problem.
you are so obsessed with the point you’re trying to make, (on which we don’t totally disagree btw) that you aren’t thinking straight - or at least not responding logically to what I”m saying….which is that using Iraq as the reason America is hated ,and throwing around the term “neo con” - are BOTH LIBERAL TALKNG POINTS!!!!!!!
And nothing you can ever say will change that whatsoever….