Well, I wanted to just “agree to disagree”.
But you seem determined to make me admit that you are 100% right and I am100% wrong.
Ok. On her endorsements in 2010, she did a good job, but the establishment wasn’t prepared for it. They did manage to make sure that she was blamed for the losses in Delaware, Nevada and Alaska, even though the Delaware loss was the only one that she even bore slight responsibility for. I blame Rove for making it clear that the GOP preferred to lose and blame her than to unite behind O’Donnell. Whatever you thought of O’Donnell, she was the winner and the GOP’s lack of support was regrettable.
In 2012 she supported Cruz and Fischer most notably. In Missouri she supported Steelman, who lost to Akins. Akins unfortunate comments made him instantly unelectable but that’s not on Palin. With Hatch, I wish she’d steered clear completely. I think the other guy was suspect. Kind of like I think Matt Bevins is suspect this year in Kentucky, as he has ties to Richard Blumenthal. BTW- Are you upset with Rand Paul for supporting McConnell here over Bevins?
Which brings me to this year. You already have denounced any upcoming success that she might have in the Sasse race and the McDaniels race. Yet the GOP led by McConnell is throwing 100,000 bucks at Sasse in Nebraska and they are rallying around Haley Barbour and Cochran in Mississippi and denouncing McDaniel in very unsavory terms.
And you suggest that she deserves no credit if they win, and yet she should throw herself into guaranteed losses?
Sorry, but I suggest that you can find nothing but fault with her no matter what she does. Where am I wrong? Tell me what she has done that you haven’t dismissed?
(BTW- Have you ever read any of her proposals? She had a great 5 point “Palin Doctrine” that she delivered in a speech in Colorado back in May 2011 that any libertarian supporter of Rand Paul should have applauded, as it was a big departure from neo-con thinking that has prevailed in the GOP for an awful long time.
And lastly, regarding the money. She met at Newsmax Headquarters back in late 2010 with those so-called “Big Money” people. I wasn’t there, so I don’t know what was said. i do know that it was shortly thereafter that she was attacked very openly by the GOP. The same GOP that happily left her to be blamed for the shooting of Gabby Giffords by a deranged lefty.
And then she was notably not invited to the 2012 convention, with the Romney people gloating about how they’d treated her like last weeks garbage as they hoped to impress the “moderates” by this mistreatment. Nevertheless, she urged us all to vote for Romney over Obama.
Let me ask you this? In a hypothetical matchup between Hillary and Sarah, with no other possibility, who do you choose?
“But you seem determined to make me admit that you are 100% right and I am100% wrong.”
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Again, you’re inaccurate. It has nothing to do with right and wrong to any degree. You’re making that up. That’s not what this was about. Your original accusation was one of hatred of me for her, which is wrong on the face, and in every other way. I see her for what she actually does - not glom onto her as though she was the lone salvation of the nation and ergo gets a huge margin to err, like her blindly faithful flock, of which you seem to be one. I laid out a defense of my position to your accusation (which you seem reluctant to categorize as the accusation it was). I laid out facts. All you’ve countered with - up to now - is more idolatry of her. She’s not an idol to me. She’s someone who ended up in politics, and she’s judged based on what she actually says and does. That’s what I wrote. Now, I’ll get to these amazing nonsense you’ve written here. Let’s start with the most important one - her non-invitation to the 2012 GOP Convention. This is an abjectly false statement. She absolutely was invited to speak there. Reince Preibus went on Fox News - national television - and said unequivocally he called Sarah Palin himself, he offered her a prime spot at the convention to speak, and SHE turned it down. So get that straight. he had everything to lose by having her come out publicly and calling him a liar. She never did (probably because every phone call at the RNC is recorded, so her calling him a liar when he wasn’t would be humiliating for her). So get that straight. They offered. She refused. The fact you don’t know this explains a lot of why we still have this ongoing diatribe. This is what her blind faithful following believe - that she was victimized by the evil RNC. And it’s a complete myth. Idolatry. Again.
You want to know what I said about that was good? I was the one who wrote first she was excellent at choosing candidates in 2010. It had nothing to do with the GOP-E. She herself was riding the wave of her popularity still riding high from 2008, and she did it very intelligently. I also pointed out when it began to fall - when she bailed on the 2012 POTUS race. And I have it on very good authority that she passed because Christie declined to get into the race (which was an utterly stupid decision on her part, which I relayed to the extremely reliable source). Nonetheless, once she bailed, many of her followers were looking for someone to be a leader - and they sensed it’s not her. That’s why her 2012 endorsements fell short of 2010. Those who wanted her to make her stand to help them felt like - “why should I support who she anoints”? She spent 3-4 years doing nothing but maligning Obama, The GOP-E, their destructive policies -and when it came time for her to do her part of at least attempting to try to defend the very people she expected to support those she endorsed, she shrunk from the challenge. Waived Her White Flag Of Surrender, as it were. This is a battle that neither Reagan or Thatcher shied away from, especially Lady Thatcher. Sarah Palin showed herself at that moment to be all smoke and no heat. It would have been far better for her to have gotten into the game and lost out (as Reagan did in 1976), than to tease and tease and tease, and then when push came to shove she decided to get sick to her stomach. So without any more than that retreat, she herself undermined her own brand. That’s why her 2012 endorsements fared so poorly from her 2010 gold mine. But mind you, her litany of complaints on politics has not stopped. Since she herself made her name as a politician - and since she still cashes in on her past political career at Fox News, among other venues - there is a saturation point reached by the public when you complain about what’s lacking in representation but you’re not willing to get in the game and fix what you keep complaining about in such a high profile manner. What you seem to be saying is it’s perfectly fine for her to use the very high profile platforms she’s given to be some kind of Conservative Siren, but it’s abjectly evil to hold her to account when someone asks, “Well, Governor Palin, it’s been 5 years since you last held office (and even quit that job well before you were supposed to), how about instead of criticizing others you suit up, get yourself elected and get your own hands dirty - or bloody - to fix this stuff”?? And we hear crickets chirping at that logic from the Palin Idolaters. Wanna know what the real dirty little secret is? Sarah Palin just plain doesn’t have the guts to get into the game and fix what she complains about. Not now. She may have done so earlier in her career, but she’s cashing in now in a way which she never did before - two TV shows? Two separate contracts at Fox News? However many book deals? Uhh..you can’t make that kinda money governing Alaska, unless you’re a Murkowski LOL!!! She’s clearly trying to stretch her 15 minutes of fame for as much as she can get from it financially. That’s as clear as day to anyone with half a brain. There’s a reason she’s not running for office, ya know???
And what good is any “plan” of hers - 5 point or otherwise - is SHE isn’t going to implement it?? What, she decides to write a “5-Point Plan” and then..uh..give it to, say, Ted Cruz and say “Here is my outstanding plan, implement this darling, will you!”??? Unless SHE is going to run on it for office, it means nothing. Period.
And absolutely right about Sasse and McDaniel. They have been backed and supported WAY before she ever said anything about them. If you plan to make the case it was her endorsement alone that carried the day for them should they win - you better be able to back that up with verifiable proof. Not just an arbitrary claim. She got Deb Fischer over the hump in 2012, and that was impressive. But everyone who is anyone conservative knows Sasse and McDaniel both. The SCF, Club For Growth TEA Party have all been working to get their names out way before her endorsement. So no, she alone gets no credit for anything they achieve. If anything, her endorsements of them is a case of her riding on the back of the hard work of others. Given her growing list of no-name losers thus far in 2014 (Benacquisto, Pierson, Lonergan, et.al), it’s no wonder why she felt the need. That’s why she’s not sticking her neck out for Bevin - she knows he has no chance at all. I railed against SCF - as a donor to them - for wasting money on him. The Kentucky GOP is never going to let the party’s national senate leader lose in a primary. It’s just not going to happen. Ditto for Winteregg against Boehner. That’s why Palin won’t endorse them. They are two more losers she’d be saddled with, and her endorsement brand is on life support as it is.
It’s ridiculous to speculate on a 2016 between Hillary and Palin. Neither of them are going to be the nominee. So enough of this. Idolize Palin as you will. She quite simply is not the force she once was, and isn’t likely to be in the future. That said, if she does decide to man up, drag her ass onto a ballot in 2016, then I will watch her closely. If she wins, and decides to try to fix what she complains about, then kudos to her. But until then, she needs to just shut up.