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To: chrisnj
Unfortunately the Constitution did not clearly define it, but the founders based it on Vattel’s Law of Nations

No. They did not "clearly" do so. Some Founders speak approvingly of his work, but that is not the same thing.

Vattel also wrote that only elites should own arms. How seriously do you think the Founders took that advice?
74 posted on 08/31/2013 12:37:14 AM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: highball

For example, James Madison, “The Father of the Constitution” spoke of a position on this issue that Vattel would have opposed.

“It is an established maxim, that birth is a criterion of allegiance. Birth, however, derives its force sometimes from place, and sometimes from parentage; but, in general place is the most certain criterion; it is what applies in the United States. It will therefore be unnecessary to investigate any other.”—22 May 1789, Papers 12:179—82


75 posted on 08/31/2013 9:52:10 AM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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