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To: Jeff Winston
Are you taking up comedy now?

Yup. Every time I argue with you.

It appears that Ann Coulter might in fact agree with you. I may write her, however, to ask whether she does.

And you thought you knew everything. Seems to me that you said earlier you had heard everything I had to say on the issue.

As for George Will, no, I don't believe he agrees with you. An argument that illegal aliens are not "subject to the jurisdiction of the United States" is not an argument that legal immigrants aren't. If Will were to make the latter, of course, according to the Wong Supreme Court, he would be wrong. Because the Wong Court was absolutely clear that legal immigrants domiciled here are subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. They were equally clear that their children are natural born citizens.

I am willing to give the benefit of the doubt regarding the children of people who have come here legally, and who had stated their intention to become citizens. I find pieces of support for this methodology in the historical record. This is why I don't really have any issues with Marco Rubio. It is my understanding that his mother had become an American before his birth, and his Father had started the process. The rest is just a minor technicality at worst.

But what of Barack Obama Sr? Was Barack Obama's father a legal immigrant? Seems to me he was a transitory Alien. Furthermore, if the lies he told to get his Visa were known at the time, he wouldn't have been allowed into the country in the first place. (Lies about Polygamy and lies about Communist Associates.)

I hope you're able to put together that debate with Mark Levin. I'd love to hear it.

Mark Levin has a tactic he uses which prevents him from losing a debate. He doesn't engage in one. He shares this methodology with you.

393 posted on 03/20/2013 4:27:48 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp
Yup. Every time I argue with you.

ba-da-BING!

Don't quit your day job. :-)

I am willing to give the benefit of the doubt regarding the children of people who have come here legally, and who had stated their intention to become citizens. I find pieces of support for this methodology in the historical record. This is why I don't really have any issues with Marco Rubio. It is my understanding that his mother had become an American before his birth, and his Father had started the process. The rest is just a minor technicality at worst.

Really?

Now this is astonishing.

You preach that "natural born citizen" requires two US citizen parents at birth.

And not even YOU believe it.

But what of Barack Obama Sr? Was Barack Obama's father a legal immigrant? Seems to me he was a transitory Alien.

I actually think there's a valid argument that Obama's father was a transitory alien. And if both of Obama's parents had been transitory aliens, I think there might even be grounds for a court case.

I actually doubt the courts would rule, even in that instance, that such a person is not a natural born citizen. But it would be worth a shot.

But since Obama's mother was a US citizen, I don't think there's even a case there. And oddly enough, what I think on these issues seems to be repeatedly exactly what real courts have thought and said. There have been at least half a dozen or so cases in which the question of Obama's natural born citizenship was put before the court, and he was ruled eligible.

Which of course puts me in an uncomfortable situation. It allows people like you to falsely paint me as an "Obot."

In any event, Obama's case is settled. There are MULTIPLE court precedents finding him to be a natural born citizen. There is no way on earth that you or anyone else could possibly overturn that precedent now.

Which makes your labeling me and others who represent the law accurately as "Obots" rather silly, since there's not the slightest need for anyone to make the case in regard to Obama any more. If there ever was.

But Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Bobby Jindal... those are the people you stand to harm now.

400 posted on 03/20/2013 5:49:26 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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