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To: Jeff Winston

To further comment:

Prior to the Revolution, Americans had allegiance both to their communities and to the King of England.

And prior to the Revolution, those two allegiances were not in conflict.

At the time of the Revolution, their community and the King parted ways. It was required that Americans choose which allegiance was their primary allegiance, and which they were going to follow.

Those who adhered to their communities as their primary allegiance, were natural born citizens of their communities, their States, and the United States that formed out of their communities.

Those who adhered to the King and his nation were natural born subjects of England.

Again, it was not for the purpose of making eligible people who had been born in America that the grandfather clause was passed. These were natural born subjects or natural born citizens of the United States.

It was for folks like James Wilson and Alexander Hamilton.


329 posted on 03/20/2013 10:08:48 AM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Jeff Winston
Those who adhered to their communities as their primary allegiance, were natural born citizens of their communities, their States, and the United States that formed out of their communities.

Those who adhered to the King and his nation were natural born subjects of England.

Utter sh*t. You can't be a "natural born citizen" of a Political entity which does not exist yet. You also can't CHOSE to be a "natural born subject/citizen" of one or the other. You are either BORN with allegiance to the King, or you are BORN with allegiance to the United States.

George Washington was BORN with Allegiance to the King. Again, you've spent too much time listening to that sh*thead "Dr. Conspiracy", and his seven mental dwarves.

341 posted on 03/20/2013 11:34:05 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Jeff Winston
Those who adhered to the King and his nation were natural born subjects of England.

Those who adhered to their communities as their primary allegiance, were natural born citizens of their communities, their States, and the United States that formed out of their communities.

This assertion is very easily disproved by a most obvious fact: if it were true there would be no need for Article II's Grandfather Clause.

404 posted on 03/20/2013 6:25:45 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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