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To: DiogenesLamp
Bingham puts the lie to your entire argument.

If that's the case, then why can't you provide one single quote from Bingham in which he explicitly says that being a natural born citizen requires citizen parents, or that the children born of aliens living here aren't natural born citizens?

Your argument relies completely on interpreting his words "not subject to any foreign authority" as including non-naturalized immigrants, in spite of the fact that he clearly says that "every person" born in the US is a natural born citizen, and in spite of the fact that he equates "citizens by birth" with "natural born citizens."

You cited him as an authority, but your argument has always been that no authorities support the parent citizenship requirement.

No, I didn't "cite him as an authority." Nor would I have, since he says things that can be construed both ways, since he only began speaking on the issue 75 years after the Constitution was written, and since he was a Congressman speaking (in many instances off the top of his head) on the floor of the House, rather than a judge issuing a carefully-considered and carefully-worded legal judgment, or a legal expert writing a carefull-worded book on the topic.

Nor do his words carry any LEGAL weight whatsoever, since he was simply a Congressman mouthing off on the floor of the House.

But you've been reduced to arguing that a Congressman mouthing off on the floor of the House, 75 years after the Constitution was written, and saying things some things that sound like they may support you, and other things that clearly contradict you, is an authority that "proves" your claim.

Don't look now, but that's pretty darn pathetic.

You see, your argument requires that there not be a single deviancy from your orthodoxy. Bingham is a poison pill to your argument. (As are others.)

No, my "argument" (which is really just an accurate statement of history and law) doesn't require that. My "argument" only requires that the authorities that really matter say what I'm saying they say.

And they do.

264 posted on 03/19/2013 11:16:44 AM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Jeff Winston
If that's the case, then why can't you provide one single quote from Bingham in which he explicitly says that being a natural born citizen requires citizen parents, or that the children born of aliens living here aren't natural born citizens?

You are a piece of work. If Bingham restricts the citizenship to those not owing foreign allegiance, then it is axiomatic that he regards "natural born citizenship" to be at least as strict. ( He does in fact, say that very thing.)

You ask for a quote as if you haven't been given the previous quotes from him. You sir, are a psyche case.

281 posted on 03/19/2013 3:07:19 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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