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3 reasons Marco Rubio isn't going to be the GOP nominee in 2016
Yahoo! News / The Week ^ | February 11, 2013 | Taegan Goddard

Posted on 02/11/2013 6:18:15 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Political Junkie Too

Yes, and I’ve seen and heard these discussions before all over.

Regardless, there’s no way any court questions Rubio’s status as a natural born citizen. If he’s the candidate, he’s the candidate. Like I said, Rubio’s not my first choice. I completely disagree with his amnesty plan, and he’s been mightily silent on the 2nd Amendment.


41 posted on 02/11/2013 7:13:27 PM PST by HawkHogan
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To: RugerMini14

Serious question that a lot of people really need to wrap their head around and ponder the relevance of...

Since when is being unelectable a hurdle to the GOP nomination?


42 posted on 02/11/2013 7:20:28 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There is only one reason! Dr. Ben Carson


43 posted on 02/11/2013 7:29:12 PM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: WVNan

When did Jeb Bush run for national office?


44 posted on 02/11/2013 7:35:42 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
3 reasons Marco Rubio isn't going to be the GOP nominee in 2016

1. It's
2. Jeb's
3. turn

45 posted on 02/11/2013 7:38:42 PM PST by Washi (PUSH BACK! Encourage your legislators to introduce pro-second amendment legislation.)
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To: Salvey
"Mike Pence? Ted Cruz?"

Those two are conservatives. I would gladly vote for either of them or both of them.

46 posted on 02/11/2013 7:55:05 PM PST by Waryone
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To: HawkHogan

I’m curious: Has Rubio’s natural born status ever been before a court? If you have a reference, I’d love to see it.

I would want to know why the issue has arisen, if it has, since he has never run for President.


47 posted on 02/11/2013 7:56:24 PM PST by LachlanMinnesota
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
...did I miss something?

Nope.


48 posted on 02/11/2013 7:57:51 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: thecodont

He isn’t a naturalized citizen. The Constitution only envisioned three types and one type are all deceased at this point.


49 posted on 02/11/2013 8:02:39 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No, but they wanted him last time. He has waited through two elections now. It’s his turn (in the elite minds)


50 posted on 02/11/2013 8:04:40 PM PST by WVNan
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To: martiangohome

Christie makes Romney look like Reagan and McCain look like Eisenhower. If that’s the direction they want to go in, they can do it without me.


51 posted on 02/11/2013 8:09:41 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: LachlanMinnesota

I’d love to see the case law that the birthers rely on for their definition of “natural born citizen.” It seems like you’ve taken the a term, natural born citizen, and somehow pontificated that it means that both parents must have been citizens of the US at the time of birth. I fail to see that definition of natural born citizen anywhere in the Constitution or in case law.


52 posted on 02/11/2013 8:11:43 PM PST by HawkHogan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Based on Taegan's "logic" either former Governor Sarah Palin or Rep. Paul Ryan will be the next Republican nominee. No one else except former Vice President Dick Cheney really fits the bill. Or did I miss something?

Yup. He's including guys who ran in the primaries and lost (Romney, Reagan, McCain).

Based on that, even if we qualify the list by only including primary winners, Huckabee, Santorum, Gingrich would also make the cut.

It is silly to use these mantras to predict. When Obama ran, it was "Senators cannot win". When Reagan ran in 1976, it was "Governors don't win due to lack of foreign policy experience" (at that point the last president who had been a governor was FDR, for Republicans Coolidge).


53 posted on 02/11/2013 8:27:10 PM PST by Dr. Sivana ("C'est la vie" say the old folks, it goes to show you never can tell. -- Chuck Berry)
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To: HawkHogan

I think I was asking if you know of any cases dealing with the Rubio Natural Born status, since you were talking about what the courts would do.

I guess the answer was that you don’t know of any.


54 posted on 02/11/2013 8:33:54 PM PST by LachlanMinnesota
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To: allmendream
He isn’t a naturalized citizen. The Constitution only envisioned three types and one type are all deceased at this point.

He isn't the Posterity of We the People, either. At least the Constitution envisioned that, too.

-PJ

55 posted on 02/11/2013 8:35:18 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: HawkHogan
...somehow pontificated that it means that both parents must have been citizens of the US at the time of birth. I fail to see that definition of natural born citizen anywhere in the Constitution...

We the People of the United States, in Order to... secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
Why call out a "natural born citizen" nowhere else in the Constitution except for the eligibility of the highest office, unless you wanted it to be the most restrictive qualification?

We know that the Founders wanted to "secure" liberty to themselves and their posterity. We know what posterity is, it's the children. "Ourselves" are "We the People" who established the Constitution. "Secure" meant only themselves and their children and their children's children, and so on.

So it's obvious that the Founders meant that natural born citizens were the children of citizens, the "Posterity" of "We the People" for whom the Constitution was established to secure.

-PJ

56 posted on 02/11/2013 8:46:50 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

“He isn’t the Posterity of We the People, either”

Neither is anyone whose lines don’t extend back to 1789 in America, which includes very nearly every born citizen.


57 posted on 02/11/2013 8:52:04 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Political Junkie Too

Still pimping your idea that only white descendants of the founding generation are full citizens?


58 posted on 02/11/2013 8:55:16 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: HawkHogan

So the question is will you assist in pushing the GOP further into Democrat policies by voting for him?

Because all the Romney campaigners stupidly bitch about the current liberalism in the GOP when so many of them gave them Carte Blanche to go leftward by embracing a Republican with his record as their candidate.

They can call me names and deny it, but facts on the ground (the rush left by the GOP claiming a moderation in the beliefs of their base) proves it to be the truth.


59 posted on 02/11/2013 8:59:43 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: LachlanMinnesota

Who has the standing to challenge his eligibility? Certainly not a private citizen. I guess if a state left Rubio off a ballot due to eligibility concerns, and Rubio challenged, a court would hear. Other than that... not many options.


60 posted on 02/11/2013 8:59:43 PM PST by HawkHogan
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