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To: presidio9
Debates are not intended to educate the auditors. They are intended to best the opponent.

Biden applied a willful and conscious method of belittleling his opponent. In my opinion Biden succeeded in diminishing Ryan. Bidens behavior has not changed my vote but he clearly made Ryan look small and weak.

24 posted on 10/14/2012 12:54:16 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
I think there is a new generational lens thar has to be applied.

Bidden was seen by younger viewers as why there is polarization in Washington, and why nothing gets done. Ryan is seen as the next generation that isn't tainted by historical party baggage, and who just wants to solve problems and get things done.

-PJ

30 posted on 10/14/2012 1:02:34 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( It doesn't I naturally when you're not natural born.)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

Not really. Ryan commented on two example where a tax cut has expanded revenues. He mentioned Reagan, then he mentioned JFK made a similar move.
In no way did he insinuate that he was the new JFK, similar to JFK, etc.

Joe’s response made no sense whatsoever. It certainly did not best him. AT BEST, he was like that TV commercial for the detergent. The stain on the shirt keeps shouting and interrupting the conversation. Joe only succeeded in making himself look like he had no ability to win by simply refuting what Ryan said. Romney bested Obama in that manner. Biden simply looke impossible to have a disscussion with. In his 45 minutes, Ryan was interuped over 80 times by Biden, and interrupted over 20 times by the Moderater. That simply was not an environment where anyone could prevail. So Ryan won by using his politenes to illustrate the two nazi thugs at the table with him.

BTW, i cannot tell you how many women i have already heard say how they HATED Bidens smug, dissmissive, and insulting tactics. Instantly reminded them of ex-husbands.


33 posted on 10/14/2012 1:07:23 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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