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I'm no math wizard, but this seems to be fast approaching the numbers where Mr. Obama has no chance at all. If the only ones voting for him are the Hard Left 20%, fewer blacks than in 2008 and maybe half the Hispanics, how can he possibly win? Mitt is gobbling up the white vote.
1 posted on 09/03/2012 9:49:43 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Oh, I forgot to tell you there’s a poll to FReep at the link. Gov. Romney is already winning! That’s a New York newspaper!!


2 posted on 09/03/2012 9:52:22 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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If the only ones voting for him are the Hard Left 20%, fewer blacks than in 2008 and maybe half the Hispanics, how can he possibly win?


Don’t forget the young folks. Having suffered through four years of high unemployment, I can’t imagine many of them enthusiastically supporting Obama again like they naively did in 2008. Many will probably stay home and sit it out (in their childhood bedrooms) this time.


3 posted on 09/03/2012 9:59:17 AM PDT by Starboard
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Mitt is not quite to the McCain level of support amongst Hispanics (31%), but he is getting closer and the trend is moving in the right direction. McCain’s being from Arizona probably helped him in that regard.

Romney needs to continue to gain traction with Hispanics over the next couple of months if he wants to win. It will be interesting to see how much (if any) the RAT convention moves the numbers.


4 posted on 09/03/2012 10:00:36 AM PDT by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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Obama over played the race card too many times. Now that he marked the cards in the media, people are seeing through his game. Most cnn reporters are predictable in their remarks and boring everyone. Hispanics can see through the games the Dems. are playing. Many people are deliberately lying to the polsters throwing the polls off by 5 to 10 points.


5 posted on 09/03/2012 10:00:53 AM PDT by FreedBird
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The Freak show this week will not help the Democrat Party.


6 posted on 09/03/2012 10:01:29 AM PDT by FreedBird
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From the Convention remarks by elected leaders from various so-called "minority" groups, one can assume that their families' hopes and dreams rely on the same solid foundation as did those of every previous generation of immigrants to America--the Creator-endowed and unalienable right to be free, to work and earn, and the right to ownership of private property, not a false "common ownership" of the earnings of someone else.

Now, however, the Democrats' "media" strategy toward their targeted groups (Hispanic, African-American, women, elderly, etc.) turns such understanding upside-down. They present "regressive" ideas as "progressive," "backward" policies as "forward," and "down" as "up." On and on it goes.

It's a strategy which goes deep into the decades-long effort to "fundamentally change" America from its new and revolutionary foundations in Creator-endowed liberty backward into the Old World and later Marxian ideas of control by imaginary human grantors and protectors.

Perhaps an answer to the once-asked question here on FR: "Why does Christianity 'scare' . . . ?" may lie in the degree to which the foundation ideas upon which America's Declaration of Independence were laid and from which the concept of Creator-endowed individual liberty and the Source from which that liberty is derived have been removed from "the American mind" (Jefferson).

Perhaps the so-called "progressive" enemies of freedom understand better than those who fancy themselves as "conservatives" that in order to reverse the Founders' ideas of "People over government," and institute "government over People," they must first marginalize and destroy the ideas from which liberty is derived.

The writings of America's Founders are replete with references which rebuke would-be tyrants and cite a Higher Source for life, liberty and rights. Early histories confirm those facts.

As so-called "progressives" have led a movement in forsaking the Founders' "reliance on Divine Providence," and belief that individuals are "endowed by their Creator," they also have forsaken the principles underlying America's Constitution and Declaration of Independence, and are systematically dismantling the greatest protections for liberty ever established for a people.

"Ideas have consequences"(Weaver).

The ideas of 1776 came out of a set of ideas consistent with liberty.

We tend to forget, or have never considered, that other world views existed then, as now.

Unless today's citizens rediscover the ideas of liberty existing in what Jefferson called "the American mind" of 1776, we risk going back to the "Old World" ideas which preceded the "Miracle of America."

There are those who call themselves "progressives," when, in fact, their ideas are regressive and enslaving, and as old as the history of civilization.

Would suggest to any who wish an authentic history of the ideas underlying American's founding a visit to this web site, at which Richard Frothingham's outstanding 1872 "History of the Rise of the Republic of the United States" can be read on line.

This 600+-page history traces the ideas which gave birth to the American founding. Throughout, Richard Frothingham, the historian, develops the idea that it is "the Christian idea of man" which allowed the philosophy underlying the Declaration of Independence and Constitution to become a reality--an idea which recognizes the individual and the Source of his/her "Creator"-endowed life, liberty and law.

Is there any wonder that the enemies of freedom, the so-called "progressives," do not promote such authentic histories of America? Their philosophy puts something called "the state," or "global interests" as being superior to individuals and requires a political elitist group to decide what role individuals are to play.

In other words, they must turn the Founders' ideas upside-down in order to achieve a common mediocrity for individuals and power for themselves.

So, the still-revolutionary idea stated by both Ryan and Romney last week about the Source of our rights became fodder for the current President's disdain this weekend, when he declared that they were "reruns" from the 20th Century and better suited for "black and white" television. (Actually, Mr. President, they are from a time much earlier than that.)

As Jefferson wisely observed:

"History, by apprising the people of the past, will enable them to judge of the future; it will avail them of the experience of other times and other nations; it will qualify them as judges of the actions and designs of men; it will enable them to know ambition under every disguise it may assume; and knowing it, to defeat its views."

All of which reinforces our conviction that the ideas of our Declaration of Independence and Constitution are as revolutionary and objectionable to tyrants as they were in 1776 and 1787!

8 posted on 09/03/2012 10:03:17 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To all the xenophobes who insist we should write off the hispanic vote "rather than pander to them" while at the same time bemoaning our "demographic suicide," I hope they read this article and ponder the implications.
18 posted on 09/03/2012 11:23:03 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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Interesting is that John McCain, who authored the Illegal Alien Amnesty bill in 2007...got only 31% of the vote in 2008

It is a myth that you win the Hispanic vote by being openly Pro-Illegal Alien Amnesty. I cringe whenever I hear GOP make any fuss over the Hispanic vote...because that is just code for “Illegal Alien Amnesty”


22 posted on 09/03/2012 8:54:38 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (When is Fox News gonna fire Karl Rove?)
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