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To: BenKenobi
Again, I am talking about being governed by God, not by the government.

So what does Rick Santorum or any other government official have to do with that?

You wrote a long response that went around and around and didn't even touch on what Santorum said and how I responded to it.

Ever hear, GRANTED BY THEIR CREATOR

And where, exactly, does the GOVERNMENT get off coming between me and "MY CREATOR" (which covers all belief systems, whether folks like you like to believe it or not--otherwise it would say specifically the Christian God).

*sigh* is right--you have backtracked yourself into saying Rick Santorum is right in saying the government has a responsibility to determine how *I* am behaving according to HIS idea of the creator--please show me where THAT is in the Constitution.

Your response to me completely contradicts what you said before. Typical of the shifting belief systems going on around here when people bend their standards to conform to some politician they like.

Give me LIBERTY, not this cult of personality baloney.

120 posted on 01/19/2012 11:35:53 PM PST by Darkwolf377 ( It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies.--C.S. Lewis)
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To: Darkwolf377

It’s not a personal cult.

That’s what me, Santorum and the Founders are all arguing about when they talk about natural rights. There’s disagreement on what exactly constitutes natural rights. In America, the BOR contains the rights that have been ageed upon, while stating again, that those rights not enumerated belong to the people.

They argue that they exist - like tables and chairs, apart from people and human society. That even if you were to take the people out that these rights still exist.

What Rick Santorum is doing - is showing that the government has a constitutional obligation to defend the constitution. If we were to let everyone do as they want, he would be abdicating the obligation of the state. He’s arguing against the libertarians and Paul to show why their understanding of how the government works is flawed.


125 posted on 01/19/2012 11:48:29 PM PST by BenKenobi (Vindicated! Santorum wins IOWA!)
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To: Darkwolf377

Have you ever heard of the Preamble of the Constitution? We the people formed a government for specific reasons, one of them being to provide for the common good. This is a social compact. If you’re disruptive to peace, tranquility, and the common good, the government acting in the name of the people has a right and an obligation to influence your behavior.


127 posted on 01/19/2012 11:50:09 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (I declare for Santorum)
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To: Darkwolf377
Give me LIBERTY, not this cult of personality baloney.

Amen to that.

I'm not particularly happy with any of the candidates. Only a rational discussion can ferret out who of them is best for what this nation faces in the future.

224 posted on 01/20/2012 7:19:38 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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