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To: Billlknowles

This is the conclusion I have come to regarding the use of the word “neocon”: When “neocons” are spoken of in a derogatory or critical way, it is very often a “tell” regarding the criticizer. The criticizer is either an anit-semite, “anti-Zionist”, anti-Israel, or is repeating a mantra spoken by someone who is at least one of those things. It’s another permutation of “The Jews are controlling everything” myth.


3 posted on 01/13/2012 8:14:04 AM PST by JG52blackman
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To: JG52blackman
Yes and no. I agree with you that it is a "tell," but I wouldn't assume that it's a tell for an anti-Semite.

Here's why, and I could be wrong: Neocons, at least as far as what I know of them, seem to stand for big government initiatives and increased government powers when it suits their purposes. Now, you can be "against" big government and still be a-okay with the Jews, can you not?

Like a poster downthread, when I hear neocon, rightly or wrongly, I think of Rove, GWB, and compassionate conservatism. And that reeks to me of Big Government, just of a different flavor than that of the progressives. I don't believe big we can Big Government our way out of our current problems, no matter what its flavor.

9 posted on 01/13/2012 10:37:46 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: JG52blackman
Sometimes it is that too. But it also is a way of just labeling anyone they disagree with.
13 posted on 01/13/2012 2:12:45 PM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: JG52blackman

“The criticizer is either an anit-semite, “anti-Zionist”, anti-Israel, or is repeating a mantra spoken by someone who is at least one of those things. It’s another permutation of “The Jews are controlling everything””

That’s not the way I’ve seen it used (though I won’t deny that some may have that in mind). When I see the term, it is usually referring to someone who is in favor of heavy miliary use, particularly with American occupation and “nation building”, but who is not particularly a small government person. Often these types will point to someone like FDR as someone they admire. I think a lot of neocons (or pseudocons) were formerly Dims who could not abide the Dims antiwar positions and so joined the Republicans, but who are pretty comfortable with big gooberment.


19 posted on 01/13/2012 4:51:28 PM PST by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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