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To: Sam Gamgee
In fact if you read about Jefferson's actions against Tripoli through William Eaton it was an early example of a covert action. There was only a half dozen to 10 marines, a small naval landing party and a gaggle of several 100 mercenaries made up of Muslim North African tribesmen & renegade Greeks to put a very incompetent guy back on the Tripolian throne. Remind anyone of anything going on now? Afghanistan, Northern Alliance, Karzai?

Paulites have always had a very selective reading of US history. The read it like a Chinese menu pick out the parts they like to buttress whatever crackpot claims they wish to make. People need to remember for most of the US’s early history Great Britain's Imperial policy and US foreign policy were mostly compatible, so we got the benefit of the Royal Navy. Freedom of the seas (the right to trade our goods anywhere we could sail a ship!)and minimal foreign intervention in the New World were UK Imperial policies which we benefited from. If we had had the naval forces early I guarantee we would have flexed our muscles more. Look at Perry's expedition, we had finally reached a point where we could project power to promote and protect American trade & lives, so we told Late Shogunate Japan open your ports and trade, don't kill shipwrecked sailors or we shell your ports. Also did that to Korea in the late 1860s.

15 posted on 01/13/2012 2:35:53 PM PST by Reily
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To: Reily
I did not know all that. Great point. If America really was the great mercantalist oppressor that Britain was it would be interested only in securing markets for itself and forcing other nations to buy its goods while refusing markets for theirs. In fact we have done the exact opposite - giving unfair advantages to our adversaries (China) and importing oil from those that work against our interests (the Saudis).
16 posted on 01/13/2012 3:05:44 PM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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