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To: Sprite518
By the whackadoo Paul standard the Founding Fathers were neocons...

Get a grip and join reality. You think Jefferson, the man who went after the Barbary Pirates would brown nose Iran ala Ron Paul style?

27 posted on 01/10/2012 11:41:31 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: ejonesie22

“You think Jefferson, the man who went after the Barbary Pirates would brown nose Iran ala Ron Paul style?”

Remember as well that Jefferson authorized the overthrow of the Tripoli government - a first in our history - but later withdrew support with a possible wink, wink, nod, nod since the plan did continue. How very neocon of him, eh?

Note also that Washington greatly tangled the United States in foreign affiars, despite his often quoted writings. He issues letters of marque against British ships on behalf of France and supported the Jay Treaty that normalized relations with Britian and lead to an undeclared navel war with France.

The point is that one must look at the actions of these people as well as their writings and political philosophies. Paul and his supporters (and not a few other conservitives) like to quote the writings of the founding fathers, but then ignore their actions.


60 posted on 01/10/2012 1:51:37 PM PST by Owl558 ("Those who remember George Satayana are doomed to repeat him")
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To: ejonesie22

B.S.

He likes the Founding Fathers and the U.S. Constitution.

Jefferson wanted to protect cargo ships from attack by Pirates. Thus, the Navy. Thomas Jefferson did not want a Navy to start Preemptive wars with other countries.

You want to start wars kind like Nazi Germany to stop them and convert them, but that’s not what our founding fathers envisioned.


70 posted on 01/10/2012 11:53:48 PM PST by Sprite518
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