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How Bachmann Can Defeat Obama
American Thinker ^ | December 16, 2011 | Daren Jonescu

Posted on 12/17/2011 6:05:59 AM PST by BarnacleCenturion

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To: no dems

“She has beaten, bloodied, and broken almost every candidate”

Well, if they can be beaten, bloodied, and broken by a former soccer mom, what does it say about them and their chances against Obama’s $1 billion war chest.

The way I see it, she’s weeding out the weak candidates. Is she also wrong to go after Ron Paul and his surrender strategy to Iran? I didn’t hear any of the other candidates say anything about it. Bachmann is right 100%.


61 posted on 12/17/2011 6:55:50 AM PST by BarnacleCenturion
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To: Utmost Certainty

“she’s sure to surge any time soon now”

She’s already surging in Iowa.


62 posted on 12/17/2011 6:56:49 AM PST by BarnacleCenturion
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To: BarnacleCenturion; All; TitansAFC
Bachmann won't win if she keeps lying. This is flying on Twitter. Many, many people are ticked off at this witch.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/dec/15/michele-bachmann/michele-bachmann-says-politifact-came-out-and-said/

63 posted on 12/17/2011 6:57:10 AM PST by LuvFreeRepublic
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To: heiss

Besides, debates rarely affect outcome. See GWB.
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You are so wrong. See Richard Nixon (1960) and George Herbert Walker (1992). Poor mannerisms and debating skills lost the Presidency for these two men and GHWB was the incumbent. If not Debates, what do the uninformed voters who want to make a quick decision rather than follow the campaign rely on?


64 posted on 12/17/2011 6:58:48 AM PST by no dems (Why do you never see "Obama" bumper stickers on cars going to work in the morning?)
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To: ronnie raygun

I could vote for Michelle, and would if I lived in her district, as I believe she is a rock-solid conservative. However, on the national stage, she would be facing an extremely talented “Community Organizer” who knows every trick in the book and will lie through his teeth if necessary to make a point. As I’ve watched, Michelle can start on a rebuttal, but all too soon will switch into “talking points” mode. The “Community Organizer” is well-schooled in those talking points and is always prepared with an Alinsky Attack. The “Community Organizer” is always prepared to explain a hundred different ways why we should become a “cradle to grave” entitlement country. Unless the opponent is able to explain how disastrous these “pie in the sky” promises are to the individual and the country as a whole, the average voter will find it hard to vote against another government program to supposedly ease their ills. The “Community Organizer” arguments are as phony as Styrofoam columns, but effective. IMHO, Newt is the only Republican agile enough to respond to these outright lies and deception that will be forthcoming.


65 posted on 12/17/2011 7:01:27 AM PST by radioone ("2012 can't come soon enough")
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To: harpu

Thanks. I don’t like saying this because I really do respect and admire the good fight Michele has put up in the House. If she decided to enter the Senate race, I would fully back her. I just think that position is a much more realistic fit for her. Let’s see what happens.


66 posted on 12/17/2011 7:06:36 AM PST by untwist
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Agreed. That seems to be the idea here “we win with my candidate, lose with everybody else and besides, they are rinos/idiots”

I’m not happy with any candidate.

I reject Newt because of his lunatic amnesty plan, and the fact he joined every trendy liberal issue in the last 5 years. I think Bachmann is actual conservative and if she wins Iowa, she gets the respect she deserves, eveb from freepers who taunt her here.


67 posted on 12/17/2011 7:07:47 AM PST by heiss (heartless and inhumane (radical rightwinger))
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Not only Obama humiliated and destroyed, but his whole Occupy Wall street vision destroyed with it!!!! This is exactly why I support Newt as well. This is more important than anything else, a total discrediting of the liberal view of America.

So the reason I want Newt, in spite of his flaws - is that he is clearly the best at doing this and in fact the only one in the field who can. Bachamm and her over the top attacks - if tried against Obama - will totally discredit our side.

Newt’s attacks don’t have to be over the top. He is simply gifted at what has become a very important skill set in our modern political arena. Yes, talking the talk is now more important than walking the walk when it comes to President. Because like it or not, what President’s say is far more important than what they do.


Exactly. Well said.
68 posted on 12/17/2011 7:11:03 AM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Has Bachman gone after Romney and his key role and his aides role in creating Romney care???
No ! Oddly Obama care is her marque issue when she was On Fox !

Now she says nothing about mitten’s being creator
Of Obamacare !
Has she attacked Romney history of being pro-abortion and pro amnesty???
No!
In fact they are seen giving hugs and kisses at theses debates !


69 posted on 12/17/2011 7:13:20 AM PST by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

“And is it just me, or does she attract supporters who are exactly like that too?”

“Yeah, she does.”

Perhaps you have in mind supporters of candidates who make such vitriolic comments as:

“Bachmann? She’s a retard. Is she still in the race?”

or:

“Maybe you’re taking some of that Tardasil that Crazy Eyes was babbling about?”


70 posted on 12/17/2011 7:13:43 AM PST by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: SharpRightTurn
Perhaps you have in mind supporters of candidates who make such vitriolic comments as:

Sorry, but no - you can't have Bachmann's people tossing out their garbage for months on end, and not expect to get a little bit of it back from time to time.

71 posted on 12/17/2011 7:18:31 AM PST by Yashcheritsiy
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To: Yashcheritsiy
Most of the Gingrich appeal is due to the many debates we have had this election season. It seems the main reason many have jumped on his train is that he is viewed as the best chance to beat Obama, past record and statements aside.

Here is the problem. In a General election, there won't be 20 debates. There will likely be as few as two. Without the numerous debate format, can Gingrich sustain a winning effort?

I have very mixed feelings if a candidate can win an election based mainly on that he is anybody but Obama. While Gingrich has said most of the right things (during debates), I have my doubts still as to who he really is and if he can campaign successfully on a national level in a mostly debate-less format.

I haven't ruled Gingrich out just yet. It's still up to him to make the sale to me, as a Conservative.

72 posted on 12/17/2011 7:20:01 AM PST by Rational Thought
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To: BarnacleCenturion

LOL


73 posted on 12/17/2011 7:27:07 AM PST by wolfman23601
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To: Yashcheritsiy

“Sorry, but no - you can’t have Bachmann’s people tossing out their garbage for months on end, and not expect to get a little bit of it back from time to time.”

Well, at least you’ve been able to keep your criticisms of the candidate substantive rather than on a personsal level. That always tends to elevate the discussion.


74 posted on 12/17/2011 7:36:34 AM PST by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Bachmann is a lair, who has no pro life accomplishments as a legislator. You can’t accuse someone with a 98% rating on life issues of being pro abortion.

She is not a leader, she can’t articulate a positive vision of any sort.

After Iowa she will thankfully go away.


75 posted on 12/17/2011 7:46:05 AM PST by Leto (Damn shame Palin didn't run, The Presidency was Her's for the taking)
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To: no dems

“There have been “whisperings” that he might be homosexual.”

I dare you to “whisper” that to Marcus in person. He’s About 6’3” and the last time I saw him he was about 250 lbs, agile as a cat, and not gay. I would not want to tangle with him.


76 posted on 12/17/2011 7:51:24 AM PST by READINABLUESTATE (Millions of government bureaucrats are gang raping and choking the life out of America.)
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To: no dems

It’s a quote from The Good, the Bad and the Ugly !

Lee Van Cleef ? Clint Eastwood ?

Gunslinger/consultant analogy.


77 posted on 12/17/2011 7:51:32 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: ncalburt
Has Bachman gone after Romney

The more staunch conservatives, Santorum, Bachmann and Perry, don't have to go after Mitt. If it comes down to just Mitt against any one of them, they win.

If it comes down to Newt versus Mitt, Newt wins.

It's hard for Michele to go after Santorum, he's the closest to her ideologically. More importantly, he's bringing up the rear.

Perry stumbled, got hit real bad. No need for anyone to attack him now.

If it comes down to Ron Paul versus any other single candidate, Ron Paul loses, cuz he's really libertarian, not Republican. (from the planet Liberteria). Michele attacked Ron Paul in the last debate because, in infantry terms, he walked right into her and did not surrender but got hostile so she just unloaded on him. Good instincts, thanks for playing, Ron.

Herman Cain did not have to be attacked by any Repub candidate, the media's lying harlots took him out for 30 cents.

The only person left for Michele to duel with is then, by default, the current leader, who is now Newt. Sooner or later, the showdowns have to happen; there can only be one winner. She did not pick on anything personal. She hit hard, but not anything worse than Obama will. Obama would get personal; I saw one of the propaganda networks saying he was "devisive", he's mean, nasty, etc. You get bet yer bottom dollar (not 10k) that any Repub will be painted by Obama as belonging to.......................

Wall Street Fat Cats !

[Repub] caused the meltdown !

etc.

I think if Newt somehow goes lower in the polls and Michele pulls up near him, she will be going for the Romney jugular and easily knock him out, him being the flopper that he is. There is no way she would bail and let Romney win if she gets near enough to have a go at him. Then it would just be between the rest. I hope this happens. Once Mitt is out, we're guaranteed of at least having a candidate that'll be a dramatic contrast to a skinny zero.
78 posted on 12/17/2011 8:16:36 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: no dems

That could boost the total leftist votes for Michele (from one total vote to two).


79 posted on 12/17/2011 8:33:14 AM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (If leftist legislation that's already in place really can't be ended by non-leftists, then what?)
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To: no dems
The things we know.

The Bachmanns took Medicare payments,
the Bachmanns lied about the kinds of therapy they were using

Conclusion...
The Bachmanns may have committed Medicare fraud by billing the government for an unapproved treatment and calling it something else.

Yo, Michele. See how easy that was???

80 posted on 12/17/2011 8:37:45 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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