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Karl Rove Says Cain's Finished, Zogby Says He 'Trounces' Romney Head-to-Head
Andrew Breitbart's Big Government ^ | October 28, 2011 | AWR Hawkins

Posted on 10/28/2011 11:24:36 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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61 posted on 10/28/2011 12:43:03 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: SideoutFred

Lol whatever you say, dood.


62 posted on 10/28/2011 12:48:50 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: tennmountainman

Me, too. Tennessee primary. Cain. I’m not voting for Romney. A lot of people aren’t voting for Romney. -
Choosing between Frick & Frack is no choice.


63 posted on 10/28/2011 12:56:36 PM PDT by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nevermind the fact that he was right about Palin and Perry.


64 posted on 10/28/2011 2:02:50 PM PDT by Huck (TAX TEA NOW==SUPPORT 9-9-9!)
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To: avacado

Is Rove trying to warn us about something? It sounds like he’s saying “Cain is no McCain!”


65 posted on 10/28/2011 2:06:16 PM PDT by haroldeveryman
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To: Trueblackman; 2ndDivisionVet; potlatch; ntnychik; dixiechick2000; Grampa Dave

Rove wants Romney to be the nominee in 2012 and hopes the Tea Party will go with Romney,
who will lose and they can run Jeb in 2016 with Rover returning to the White House.

66 posted on 10/28/2011 2:11:47 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: USS Alaska

Happy to place a bet on it. I realize many people here will have their heads explode at the thought, but it’s pretty simple.

To win elections you need organization...Cain has none.

He hasn’t been vetted yet and the press will vet him to the hilt because they don’t want an African American conservative to win...they never do.

Again, happy to place a bet on this if you wish, but Cain is not going to win the nomination. I’ll go so far as to say he won’t finish in the top 2...I’m giving you great odds.

Any takers?


67 posted on 10/28/2011 2:23:46 PM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. Stinks...it really does)
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To: MNJohnnie

He’s not my candidate Johnnie...let’s be clear on that. I’m just saying Romney is going to win the nomination.

Quite frankly, I think just about every candidate on the GOP side is beyond weak this year. I like Newt on some things, but he’s not electable. Santorum I like a on few things, but no way is he electable...he couldn’t even win Pennsylvania.

It is what it is...Romney is going to win the nomination. Doesn’t make him “my candidate”, I’m just telling you who is going to win and it’s not hard to figure out. The first four states are crucial and he has significant leads in 3 of the 4 states and small lead in the 4th. That will give him all the mojo he needs.


68 posted on 10/28/2011 2:26:35 PM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. Stinks...it really does)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
75% of the GOP do not want Romney.

If Cain slides, it may come down to Romney and Newt.

The Romney defenders can try to force him down our throat, like they did with that nitwit McCain, but this time we aren't buying.

69 posted on 10/28/2011 3:01:23 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: PhilDragoo

LOL!


70 posted on 10/28/2011 3:07:40 PM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: fortheDeclaration

The polls suggest your 75% number is totally unfounded


71 posted on 10/28/2011 3:16:05 PM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. Stinks...it really does)
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To: SideoutFred
Again, happy to place a bet on this if you wish, but Cain is not going to win the nomination. I’ll go so far as to say he won’t finish in the top 2...I’m giving you great odds.

Any takers?

I've been through this "let's bet, I'm giving great odds" crap before with FR blowhards until we need to put up the cash.

OK, one more time.

Great odds are 10 - 1. I'll take those odds.

I put up $ 100, you put up $ 1,000 and I win if Herman comes in either one or two as the pubbie candidate.

We send the money to JimRob, and the winner gets their money returned, the losers money stays with FR.

Tell me when you are ready to send the money to FR and we can conclude this transaction.

If you decide that you don't have either the money or the balls for this bet, don't bother with any weak kneed excuses, your actions will define your backbone.

72 posted on 10/29/2011 4:44:45 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the Terrorists Savages)
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To: USS Alaska

Those are great odds, too great. You seemed so confident that he’s going to win I would think you would go for something a bit lower.

I gave you an offer, you apparently don’t want to take it.

He won’t finish in the top 2...I’m giving you multiple outs (better odds).


73 posted on 10/29/2011 10:34:21 AM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. Stinks...it really does)
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To: Trueblackman; PhilDragoo

Kevin, you are SO right! Very astute observation, and thank you for posting it!

Phil...as always...AWESOME!!!


74 posted on 10/30/2011 12:32:51 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Proud barbarian TEA Party SOB)
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To: SideoutFred

What polls are you looking at?

The rest of us know that Cain is leading in all but NH, and one stupid Iowa poll that had Paul winning with 80%+.


75 posted on 10/30/2011 12:51:58 AM PDT by Politicalmom (I am intrigued and open to the Bush administration's amnesty proposal. -Rick Perry)
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To: SideoutFred

Romney doesn’t get out of the 20s in amost any poll. Really, you are just spouting nonsense.


76 posted on 10/30/2011 12:55:11 AM PDT by Politicalmom (I am intrigued and open to the Bush administration's amnesty proposal. -Rick Perry)
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To: Politicalmom

This poll...he leads in the first four states

http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/archives/2011/10/new-polls-show-1.php


77 posted on 10/30/2011 6:07:15 PM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. Stinks...it really does)
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To: Politicalmom

He’s in the 30’s in Florida and in the 40’s in New Hampshire, but feel free to believe that isn’t the case.

http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/archives/2011/10/new-polls-show-1.php


78 posted on 10/30/2011 6:08:36 PM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. Stinks...it really does)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Tokyo Rove’s 15 minutes were up some time ago. It is time for him to stick a sock in it and go away permanently.


79 posted on 11/03/2011 2:32:54 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club: Burn 'em Bright!!!)
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To: SideoutFred; fortheDeclaration; fieldmarshaldj; Lucius Cornelius Sulla; Fiji Hill; Dr. Sivana; ...
Sideout Fred:

Do you have some credible poll that shows Mitt Obamney with MORE than 25%? More than 30%? Nationwide? Also, conservatives who ARE conservatives have every reason to defeat Mittens Obamney.

Mittens can be trusted to be a complete treasonweasel to conservatives on: the babies, marriage, guns, taxes, law enforcement, SCOTUS and other fedcourt and administration nominations, getting rid of Obamacare which is nearly as much his dimwitted idea as it is Obozo's, military, foreign policy, monetary policy, and, for those who get worked up about it, as to the border security issue. The Mittwit would play up to every idjit elitist cause imaginable: cap 'n' trade, environmental whackoism, "man-made global warming" or "man-made global climate change" or whatever the lying title of the week is for that fraud of AlGore, anti-death penalty, government unions, gay everything, other perversions, appoint elitist birdbrain leftists (like John Paul Stevens or Swish Souter or Herod Blackmun) to SCOTUS, and probably start whining about the "military-industrial complex," in an attempt to disarm our country and cave to its enemies since only money matters to trash like the Mittwit. He is a windtunnel elitist pig and no conservative. If Mittens got his paws on the presidency, he would single-handedly destroy the Republican brand permanently and so identify the GOP with his worthless investment banker butt boys and other rampaging fiscal rapists that the GOP will probably cease to exist within about half a term. Within the GOP, he would see that the heavy hand of grossly subsidized Wall Street bailout beneficiaries will finance to the hilt ever ideological mushball or leftist in the country seeking the GOP nomination for any important office. Charlie Crist and Lincoln Chaffee and Mike Castle and their ilk would be back in the saddle. Thanks, but no thanks.

George Will (not a particularly blood and guts conservative himself) has publicly wondered what has happened if Obamney can sneak past the conservative movement and be nominated by the GOP. What indeed??? We need not merely to defeat Romney but to absolutely destroy the spaghetti-spined SOB totally so he will never show his treasonweasel face in public again.

These idiotic debates run by the leftist enemies of our movement, our party, our nation and of Western Civilization so as to create a false bandwagon of faux "inevitability" for a sorry SOB like Mittens should NEVER be repeated. The only worthwhile format yet this year was the one in South Carolina run by Jim DeMint and featuring individual questioning of the candidates outside the presence of one another by conservatives with living brain cells.

That having been said and the candidates being committed to more of this insane lame stream media format, it is time for a conservative elimination contest. Winner is the one who most spectacularly performs a final political decapitation of Romney on national TV. It is a contest for any and all of the other candidates other than Huntsman. Winner gets nominated. Even paleoPaulie can win minor GOP and conservative credentials (but please NOT the nomination) by concentrating his fire on the Mittwit. Even paleoPaulie has issues on which he is correct.

Sarah Palin promised not to seek the GOP nomination in 2012. She said nothing about running Independent. She should petition her way onto the ballot in all 50 states as an Independent candidate, start campaigning hard, rip the nads off Obozo and the Mittwit, and announce that her name will be withdrawn from every state's ballot as soon as Romney is driven from the race, quits, or otherwise evaporates firmly and finally for the duration of the 2012 cycle.

Don't let the Mittster flatter himself for one moment by wallowing in self-pity and publicly imagining that his Mormon affiliation had anything whatsoever to do with his destruction. If he had been a better Mormon, he might have been a better candidate and public official. I have known many Mormons in Young Republicans and Young Americans for Freedom and each and every one was, by far, morally superior to Mittens, the Plasticman. One might say that most Mormons have been fine public officials. That does not include Frank Church, anything named Romney and anything named Udall.

Mitt Romney, Son of Brainwashed George Romney, is even less of a Republican than his pathetic late father and mother. Brainwashed II (assuming that there is anything to launder) is NOT going to be POTUS. Worst case scenario: Obozo is re-elected as we gain control of Senate by a good margin and widen control of the House. In any second Obozo term (which can only occur through the Mittwit staying in the race), he gets absolutely NO judges confirmed at any level and total unified GOP resistance to make this term look like child's play. The GOP actually goes to political war for a change and utterly destroys the "progressives" running the Obozo regime and the Demonrat caucuses in Congress. It will be a laborious effort but our country and our party are worth the effort. ANY "Republican" collaborating with Obozo, Reid, Pelosi, et al., gets destroyed more vigorously than Obozo. Treason is always worse than simply playing on the wrong team.

80 posted on 11/03/2011 4:48:31 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club: Burn 'em Bright!!!)
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