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Perry falters as the Romney alternative
The Nashua Telegraph ^ | October 1, 2011 | Margaret Carlson

Posted on 10/01/2011 3:28:03 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Guess she got digs in at all the pigs, then.


21 posted on 10/01/2011 6:39:25 PM PDT by Oceander (Perry 4 Prez in 2012)
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To: jersey117

“What that tells me is that a desperate obama is going to throw Biden under the bus and put Hillary on the ticket for 2012.”

I’d agree, but I think they know Hillary as VP won’t cut it...and she hasn’t persevered through all this just for the VP job. She’s just biding her time.

As to Perry being the best, I don’t see how. Hillary will clean his clock in the debates, and even Obama will roll over him. Perry simply isn’t up to the top job, at least this time around. He hasn’t even though about national politics until just now (other than when they directly affected Texas), and other than coddling Mexico, he’s NEVER thought about foreign policy.


22 posted on 10/01/2011 6:50:18 PM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: jersey117
Doesn't seem to matter. Some folks do take honest exception to Perry's immigration record but see him as a legit candidate. Otherwise, you have those who ignore the facts, those who enjoy being obstinate; and those who see Perry as a threat to their own candidate. The heat Perry is taking does seem excessive and at times highly irrational.
23 posted on 10/01/2011 6:57:07 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: BobL

“Yes, he has governed the most conservative state in the nation...but as a MODERATE, and border-line liberal when it comes to immigration. That’s why we’re so mad at him...I’ve been here in Texas and he hasn’t lifted a finger on immigration (i.e., E-Verify, Sanctuary Cities, and lots more)...and has just made things worse (Dream Act).”

Everyone complains about the rinos from Maine and MA but if the red state Republicans can’t lead by example, how can we expect Republicans from blue states to be any better?


24 posted on 10/01/2011 7:31:49 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I'm a heartless conservative because I love this country.)
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To: ari-freedom

“Everyone complains about the rinos from Maine and MA but if the red state Republicans can’t lead by example, how can we expect Republicans from blue states to be any better?”

Agreed - that’s what’s been the most disappointing here. We have a real fruitcake as governor, and we can’t find a way to get rid of him.


25 posted on 10/01/2011 7:39:19 PM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: stilloftyhenight

uh, what record is that? Oh, you mean the legislation for instate tuition for children of illegals passed in 2001 with a veto proof majority. Some children of illegals are actually legal. They do have to pay their tuition themselves and must meat other requirements. Only 4 total NO votes from the TX Legislature. Passed in 2001. Doesn’t support building a fence on the border. Perry does support it in urban areas, just not in rural areas. Ranchers does not want their stock cut off from water. There is 1200 miles of border. Perry has requested aviation, drones and boots on the ground. Denied by Obama. TX catches illegals and ICE turns them loose. Obama is not deporting them. This is a Federal responsibility and Obama is not meeting it. Perry signed a voter ID bill and has teams on the border trying to catch criminal illegals. He has been doing this a long time. There are several millions of legal hispanics voters in TX and other states. Who do you think they will vote for in the Republican race? Perry most likely, the way the others have savaged Perry, I doubt they will get very many votes.


26 posted on 10/01/2011 8:03:36 PM PDT by Grey Eagle
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To: BobL

“Agreed - that’s what’s been the most disappointing here. We have a real fruitcake as governor, and we can’t find a way to get rid of him.”

you could’ve had Kay Bailey...
In NY, our problem wasn’t that Paladino was a rino. He was very very conservative but unfortunately, he was just crazy.


27 posted on 10/01/2011 8:06:32 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I'm a heartless conservative because I love this country.)
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To: ari-freedom

“you could’ve had Kay Bailey...”

And that was our problem. There are some really, really, GOOD CONSERVATIVES here in Texas, but instead we get Perry, who’s just conservative enough to hang on to office...FOR A DECADE.

What a nightmare.


28 posted on 10/01/2011 8:10:38 PM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: Liz; 2ndDivisionVet; sickoflibs; B4Ranch; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; ...
While it's true that the nation has elected incoherent Texans to the White House, Perry alone has come up with THE dumbest non-sequiturs. Debate Perry looked and sounded ill-prepared, uncertain, dull, vacuous and embarrassingly out of his depth.
Besides 'incoherent Texans' let's not forget an incoherent, inexperienced, and *tired* POTUS from Massachusetts, JFK, who met with Nikita Khrushchev on June 4, 1961 in Vienna regarding Berlin, East Germany and -- a possible War over the issue. (oh goody)

We now know that Khrushchev owned the *tired* and inexperienced Kennedy. And after that Summit Meeting JFK admitted: "He beat the hell out of me" and told NYT reporter James ‘Scotty’ Reston it was the "worst thing in my life. He savaged me.".

We also now know that it was solely due to JFK's lousy, lackluster, and *tired* performance (aka; Speaking) in that Summit Meeting that Khrushchev was emboldened, and thought Kennedy was a push-over. And as such, the USSR could put Nuclear Missiles in Cuba without a peep from the USA. And THAT almost led to a 'nuclear confrontation' and most of us now here would have been D-E-A-D.

Fast forward to today and we now have the Perrydactyls scolding us that Perry's debating skills are irrelevant and so is the way he speaks (aka: Speech Patterns). Well excuse me for not buying that, as we know from the above snippet of history that the way a POTUS communicates with heads of foreign countries, along with his body language while doing so, is far from 'irrelevant'.

During the Cold War we basically had to only worry about one 'enemy', the USSR and its Soviet Bloc. Today we have numerous Rogue States and Terrorist Groups all over the globe just waiting for another weak moment, or... a weak POTUS, to land another blow to us on our soil. With their goal to make 9-11-01 look like a Girl Scout Bake Sale.

Therefore, the last thing we, the USA needs, is a POTUS who cannot get his point and/or position across correctly and coherently the first time he says something -- as there may not be a second chance. And right now Perry looks like a potentially weak and/or incoherent POTUS.

And that we just cannot afford.

That is all.
We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming.

29 posted on 10/02/2011 5:09:51 AM PDT by Condor51 (Yo Hoffa, so you want to 'take out conservatives'. Well okay Jr - I'm your Huckleberry)
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To: Condor51

Perry is a weak and incoherent candidate........definitely not ready for the world stage.

The only place he seems to be able to communicate is Mexico.....but that’s because Mexico uses the Freebie Dialect.


30 posted on 10/02/2011 5:42:30 AM PDT by Liz (The rule of law must prevail. We canÂ’t govern ourselves by our personal point of view.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
trashing Perry is not limited to the Left.

I support Rick Perry; he is now my first choice; the more trashing of him the less likely I am to support the garbage man's choice. He is a former Air Force pilot and the best of the current crop of those running for President. Obama must be defeated. I have given up on Bachmann because of her sleazy attack ads; Romney is toast. Gingrich and Cain are the only gentlemen left. Well Santorum is okay except he would lose.

31 posted on 10/02/2011 7:21:13 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began,)
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To: Liz
Perry is a weak and incoherent candidate........definitely not ready for the world stage. The only place he seems to be able to communicate is Mexico.....but that’s because Mexico uses the Freebie Dialect.

Your over the top rhetoric/comments come across as anti-Hispanic bigotry; you may play well to a certain audience but lots of conservatives are not heathen bigots and it does not resonate; ... just sayin'

32 posted on 10/02/2011 7:23:49 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began,)
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To: af_vet_1981

Rick Perry is the ONLY candidate who has dealt with the Border as a governor in a state with an enormous border.
I want someone who will deal realistically with the immigration issue.


33 posted on 10/02/2011 7:40:59 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Rick Perry 2012)
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To: Condor51

” Therefore, the last thing we, the USA needs, is a POTUS who cannot get his point and/or position across correctly and coherently the first time he says something — as there may not be a second chance.”

Truth to tell, he WON’T get a second chance!


34 posted on 10/02/2011 7:47:53 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

I agree with you; and after today’s nonsense I’m crossing Herman Cain off my list of an acceptable candidate. He now reminds me of a cross between Ross Perot and Colin Powell. If Perry or Palin are nominated I expect him to backtrack and back Obama.


35 posted on 10/02/2011 6:21:20 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began,)
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